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Ben Graham Centre's 2021 Value Investing Conference
Bryggen replied to Bryggen's topic in Fairfax Financial
Thanks Norm! Valuable input and I will wait next year. in the meantime, I will watch some of the videos ;) Bry -
Ben Graham Centre's 2021 Value Investing Conference
Bryggen replied to Bryggen's topic in Fairfax Financial
Thanks for your reply. Appreciated. Looks like it was discussed here before (2016), but I assume no one has a recent experience. Have a good one! -
Figured I'd start a new topic on this one... Has anyone ever attended the Ben Graham Centre for Value Investing conference usually taking place the week of the AGM? This year it is called the 2021 VIRTUAL VALUE INVESTING CONFERENCE. Would you recommend it? Anything to actually learn or gain insight into? Anthing to gain as an individual investor? Please share your thoughts as I am considering registering for the first time. Thanks Bry
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...not if you don't have a Globe and Mail account! I cannot read the article. So, the answer is no and never was on the TSX60?
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Unrelated question: was FFH ever part of the TSX 60 and recently removed? Thanks
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Thoughts on the results? Still new trying to figuring out their numbers and if this is good or bad. Looks decent at first glance given the context. Bry
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Any thoughts on the upcoming call on Friday? Expecting surprises or we pretty much know what will come out of this call? Do you believe the January dividend could be threatened in the current context? Just curious. Thanks!
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Annual news. They must file one every year on the off-chance that they wish to repurchase shares. It's just a formality. SJ Thanks for cooling my excitement ;) So, when and how would they report actual share repurchases?
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A good news finally! https://www.fairfax.ca/news/press-releases/press-release-details/2020/Intention-to-Make-a-Normal-Course-Issuer-Bid-for-Subordinate-Voting-Shares-and-Preferred-Shares/default.aspx
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It looks like he bought at an average cost of $308 USD roughly or about $420-425 CDN per share. It says he bought in the last few days before the press release...I would imagine it was around the 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th, where the stock was around $425 CDN or less and volumes rose. If he is buying there, then I would imagine he is expecting a return of better than 15% annualized or more over the next few years. Cheers! The question then becomes is Prem expecting a 15% return a good predictor of future 15% returns. ...and one to ask: ''is 15% a realistic expectation?''. I am approaching a decade of holding FFH and I am seriously wondering if this is a realistic target as recent shareholders (10 years or less) are yet to benefit from such appreciation. It sure attracts new ( and naive) investors. I am tired of hearing the 30 years track record and while I focus on the last 10 years, I can only come to the realization that shareholders fell short of expectations. yeah , yeah ... I am still around and will for quite some time, but I needed to vent and share ;) Even during the depths of the hedge fund crisis, when Fairfax stock fell to $53 USD, I don't remember Prem buying shares in such a significant amount. Frankly, I'm shocked that he put $150M of outside capital into Fairfax...that would be a decades worth of dividends for him. And if he didn't borrow the money, I would imagine that's probably half his net worth outside of what is held in Sixty-Two Corporation. Then again, I've got half my net worth outside of Corner Market Capital in Fairfax and Atlas Corp right now, so maybe I shouldn't be surprised...and I'm very comfortable with both and think both have 50-100% upside over the next 2-3 years! Cheers! Feeling better... thanks for your always valuable input. Patience and trust are key here. Let wait and see...and look back at this thread in 2-3 years! cheers
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It looks like he bought at an average cost of $308 USD roughly or about $420-425 CDN per share. It says he bought in the last few days before the press release...I would imagine it was around the 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th, where the stock was around $425 CDN or less and volumes rose. If he is buying there, then I would imagine he is expecting a return of better than 15% annualized or more over the next few years. Cheers! The question then becomes is Prem expecting a 15% return a good predictor of future 15% returns. ...and one to ask: ''is 15% a realistic expectation?''. I am approaching a decade of holding FFH and I am seriously wondering if this is a realistic target as recent shareholders (10 years or less) are yet to benefit from such appreciation. It sure attracts new ( and naive) investors. I am tired of hearing the 30 years track record and while I focus on the last 10 years, I can only come to the realization that shareholders fell short of expectations. yeah , yeah ... I am still around and will for quite some time, but I needed to vent and share ;)
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My view is that the linked article is written by a poorly programmed AI. It randomly attached facts to make a business article. The AI is a far cry from the Skynet that was suppose to take over the world by now. The actual serious question is: did he buy more BB as stated in the article or not? Anyone knows? Maybe we ask the AI ;)
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On top of the future conversion he could get at $6 a piece from the recent debt deal, Prem loaded up on BB on Sept. 1st to increase his stake: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/prem-watsa-continues-bet-blackberry-165153198.html It means something? .... I think BB's time is finally coming. Thougts?
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That is for the first six months of the year, right? Making money in 6 months during a pandemic? Really? I am stealing Parsad's favourite: cheers!
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Now, as everyone talks about integrity and suspicious deals, what are your thoughts on that one with BB - just out today: https://seekingalpha.com/news/3593625-blackberry-redeeming-convertibles-in-debt-restructuring?utm_medium=email&utm_source=seeking_alpha&mail_subject=frfhf-blackberry-redeeming-convertibles-in-debt-restructuring&utm_campaign=rta-stock-news&utm_content=link-3