rukawa Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Is shale gas a bubble? Do people think that shale gas reserves and sustainable production is overstated. And if this is the case and natural gas prices are going to increase what are the best companies to invest in? Gazprom? Encana? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hellsten Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I'm more worried about what happens with gas and oil prices when half the world starts drilling shale gas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_recoverable_shale_gas Buy the "pick and shovel" manufacturers is a thought that keeps popping up in my head… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bz1516 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I'm more worried about what happens with gas and oil prices when half the world starts drilling shale gas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_recoverable_shale_gas Buy the "pick and shovel" manufacturers is a thought that keeps popping up in my head… Agreed. That's why I don't own any oil and gas producers. Rather own the companies that will make money the more oil that's produced, rather than be subject to pricing. Frac sand providers are the most leveraged to shale oil production in the North America. The three public names are EMES SLCA and HCLP in that order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rukawa Posted May 9, 2014 Author Share Posted May 9, 2014 I was reading yesterday's Globe and Mail and they were talking about how Encana is shifting away from Natural Gas and towards Liquids. But what I found interesting is that the article criticized Encana for investing in Shale Gas because its unprofitable. The conclusion for me is that many shale gas plays are unprofitable and eventually nat gas prices will rise a lot. Conventional shale gas producers should rise in value too. Encana which is increasingly diversifying out of conventional nat gas is making a huge mistake. But now I realize how much companies are driven by quarterly earnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatientCheetah Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 I was reading yesterday's Globe and Mail and they were talking about how Encana is shifting away from Natural Gas and towards Liquids. But what I found interesting is that the article criticized Encana for investing in Shale Gas because its unprofitable. The conclusion for me is that many shale gas plays are unprofitable and eventually nat gas prices will rise a lot. Conventional shale gas producers should rise in value too. Encana which is increasingly diversifying out of conventional nat gas is making a huge mistake. But now I realize how much companies are driven by quarterly earnings. I am not too sure on this. At this stage, fracking technology is fairly commodity technology. If gas goes up enough, gas producers can always switch back from liquid. I think its the question of last man standing and whether or not the capital market remains open. If the capital market closes for some reason, a few years of underinvestment can make the remaining players very rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petec Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Yup - all depends on whether you're a low cost player (and can remain so) or not. Even the pick and shovel mfrs had better have a sustainable competitive advantage or they just pass profits on as lower prices. National Oilwell might be a good one there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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