thepupil Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 scorpion, they don't push (NYSE:ARCP), they push non-traded REITs managed by Cole Capital ( effectively an asset manager) which is owned by ARCP. The market's already written off Cole in my view, and rightly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packer16 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Fort the existing properties they may be OK if they had good underwriting. What this really stops is growth. The way these NNN REITs grow is to buy properties and NNN lease them. The capital for growth comes from equity investors and banks. If they cannot raise equity then the growth is gone. Packer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smj Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Agree with Packer that this whole ordeal will result in limited or no future growth. As a result of this and with the pressure that will be placed on Schorsch to unwind his tangled web of conflicts amongst all his different entities, I see this thing potentially getting sold as the market for these type of assets remains strong. Just speculating, but Blackstone (who they just closed the $1.9B shopping center deal with) or another private equity type who could buy this and maybe carve it up and sell it in pieces to other institutions or NNN REIT's in smaller portfolios similar to the EOP deal. Now the question is what is the existing portfolio worth. I know an NAV of $12-$13 was thrown around at some point. While one can argue they overpaid for the Red Lobster acquisition, 46% of the portfolio is credit rated which in this environment are trading sub 6% caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smj Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 http://online.wsj.com/articles/for-schorsch-an-empire-under-siege-1415215460 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xazp Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 The saving grace is ARCP issued about $12Bn in equity to buy their assets in a generally increasing market for CRE. They likely did overpay, but, the rising tide in market values erases many sins. Should they turn around and essentially unwind their transactions at a discount (take a 15% haircut but use it to buy stock at a 40% discount) - this would be accretive to the buyer and also ARCP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareastwarriors Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 American Realty Capital Accounting Errors Tied to Employee Bonuses ARCP Errors Involved Bonuses Paid to Managers and Other Employees http://online.wsj.com/articles/american-realty-capital-accounting-errors-tied-to-employee-bonuses-1415387998?mod=WSJ_hps_sections_markets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpRaider Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-29/activist-investment-firm-corvex-takes-7-1-stake-in-arcp.html?cmpid=yhoo Corvex discloses 7.1% stake; mostly options. I'm going to have to dig into this balance sheet. Should be some new year's eve fun! Any of you guys in the name now think there a lot of fluff on there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidoosnk Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 March deadline for audited financials is approaching but Tepper's fund bought some a few days ago http://finance.yahoo.com/news/appaloosas-david-tepper-buys-american-163548890.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpRaider Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Likely post for posterity when gains evaporate whilst I dither: Anyone else long this one? (VER now)...Thinking about selling this as I believe my original valuation was $10-$12. Now that I'm in the range I'm feeling like $12 sounds better...haha. I'm just about to tick over into LTCG in a week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peridotcapital Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Likely post for posterity when gains evaporate whilst I dither: Anyone else long this one? (VER now)...Thinking about selling this as I believe my original valuation was $10-$12. Now that I'm in the range I'm feeling like $12 sounds better...haha. Guess I'm just about coming up one year. Still long Vereit. If it gets to $12 I'll probably sell (15x FFO seems like a good target). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now