JAllen Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I had just spent a few minutes typing a post about this, but then for some reason my session failed when I clicked preview to make sure I wasn't going to post something terribly mis-formatted and I lost the entire post (I'll resist the urge to say something awful about this software). But anyways, the rights offering ends in the new year, as opposed to the time between Christmas and New Years, which I thought was the case until today (because the prospectus said twenty trading days after the commencement date which I thought was today and not December 10th). So I don't think the oversubscription amount will be huge. There may be a few people who accidentally don't exercise them and aren't purchased in the market perhaps. But are people really not going to purchase the rights in the open market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ajc Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I had just spent a few minutes typing a post about this, but then for some reason my session failed when I clicked preview to make sure I wasn't going to post something terribly mis-formatted and I lost the entire post (I'll resist the urge to say something awful about this software). I think there's a timer of a few minutes on it. A trick for that is to click the backpage icon when you see the 'session failed' notice and your writing will still be there. Then, just copy, refresh, paste and you're good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAllen Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 It wasn't there when I did cmd-[ using Chrome. Maybe clicking back will be different. EDIT: I don't know what's going on! Clearly there's something wrong here. This time I'm quite sure I previewed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 It wasn't there when I did cmd-[ using Chrome. Maybe clicking back will be different. That's one way to test your high-DPI monitor.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ajc Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 It wasn't there when I did cmd-[ using Chrome. Maybe clicking back will be different. When I quote your comments, size=2px is included on either side of the text. I zoomed 300% originally and was just able to make it out, even though as I write this I can see it as usual albeit with the size equals 2px as bookends. Yes, with Chrome clicking backwards should work. I use it and that's been my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 Shares Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Just received my subscription rights to Liberty Broadband. Fidelity is my broker and I need to call to exercise. This is my first rights offering. I understand subscription vs oversubscription, just curious what the proper lingo is on the phone is if I want to oversubscribe. Do I need to say how many i want to oversubscribe by, etc? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenaidaMacroura Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Just received my subscription rights to Liberty Broadband. Fidelity is my broker and I need to call to exercise. This is my first rights offering. I understand subscription vs oversubscription, just curious what the proper lingo is on the phone is if I want to oversubscribe. Do I need to say how many i want to oversubscribe by, etc? Thanks. I was also wondering how close to expiry you'd have to wait before you'd be cleared for oversubscription? or do you not get any "exercised" shares until the expiry date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAllen Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 You subscribe for your basic subscription shares and at the same time, specify the number of additional shares you would like to subscribe to, and if you're not doing that throgh a broker, you have to submit all of the oversubscription funds. But my guess is that you just have to have those extra funds in your brokerage account to oversubscribe. At IB, there is a corporate actions tab somewhere, if you're using them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racemize Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 maximum oversubscription is for the same number of shares as subscription, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAllen Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 No, it's not. If you wish to exercise your oversubscription privilege, you must specify the number of additional shares you wish to purchase, which may be up to the maximum number of shares of our Series C common stock offered in the rights offering, less the number of shares you may purchase under your basic subscription privilege. pg. 60 http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1611983/000104746914006379/a2220790zs-1.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAllen Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 You must exercise your oversubscription privilege at the same time as you exercise your basic subscription privilege in full. If you will own your shares of our Series A, Series B or Series C common stock through your broker, dealer or other nominee holder following the distribution and you wish for them to exercise your oversubscription privilege on your behalf, the nominee holder will be required to certify to us and the subscription agent: • the series and number of shares of Liberty common stock held on the record date on your behalf; the number of Series C Rights you exercised under your basic subscription privilege; that your entire basic subscription privilege held in the same capacity has been exercised in full; and the number of shares of our Series C common stock you subscribed for pursuant to the oversubscription privilege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 Shares Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Awesome. Thanks for all the help. So even if I had subtraction rights to one share I could oversubscribe for another 10. I didn't realize that. They're not guaranteed but it's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racemize Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 No, it's not. If you wish to exercise your oversubscription privilege, you must specify the number of additional shares you wish to purchase, which may be up to the maximum number of shares of our Series C common stock offered in the rights offering, less the number of shares you may purchase under your basic subscription privilege. pg. 60 http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1611983/000104746914006379/a2220790zs-1.htm so it is an arbitraryly large number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munger_Disciple Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Based on the price the rights are quoted at, it appears that the market expects the rights offering to be fully subscribed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAllen Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 It's not quite arbitrary. It's specifically: max number of shares offered (17M?) minus your basic subscription is the max number of shares you can subscribe for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted December 13, 2014 Author Share Posted December 13, 2014 Based on the price the rights are quoted at, it appears that the market expects the rights offering to be fully subscribed. I have little experience with rights offerings. How do you determine what the expectations are from the price? Is it just that if the market expected oversubscription to be a relatively high percentage, the price would be higher than LBRDK minus the exercise price (40.63) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munger_Disciple Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 The rights are trading for almost the difference between the class C share price and the exercise price of the right. So they are trading as if every shareholder will get their pro-rata % of the offering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabuff Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 In that case, what is the benefit to buying and exercising the rights instead of simply buying the spinoff outright at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 In that case, what is the benefit to buying and exercising the rights instead of simply buying the spinoff outright at this point? No benefit if the market prediction is correct. But if it isn't, you might get some oversubscription shares. So if they are trading for exactly the same implied price, you should always go with the rights as a free option. Also: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/937797/000122520815000613/xslF345X03/doc4.xml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2015-01-06/charter-cisco-said-to-unveil-cloud-cable-tv-service.html Charter, Cisco Said to Unveil Cloud Cable TV Service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwy000 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2015-01-06/charter-cisco-said-to-unveil-cloud-cable-tv-service.html Charter, Cisco Said to Unveil Cloud Cable TV Service Well it's about time somebody went down this route!! Why I need to have a giant hard drive sitting under my TV these days is questionable. It's almost old fashioned. In my humble view this will also be a key step into why the cable companies are best positioned to disrupt their own business model with OTT services. This is essentially just the first step in transitioning cable into internet based service of the same channels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowlight Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 This may be a dumb question but I haven't been able to figure it out just yet. Bloomberg shows the market cap at ~$4.9 billion or so while Yahoo Finance shows ~$4.1 billion. I assume this has to do with shares recently issued through the subscription rights but I can't determine exactly how many. Maybe I am looking in the wrong place. Would appreciate any help. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merkhet Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 So it looks like we should start seeing our subscribed Liberty Broadband shares in our accounts soon. IB is showing my shares, but TDAmeritrade is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 So it looks like we should start seeing our subscribed Liberty Broadband shares in our accounts soon. IB is showing my shares, but TDAmeritrade is not. How is IB showing your shares? Just as regular LBRDK? I looked this morning and still saw them as LBRDK.EX and LBRDK.OS, so I think it's just amounts that were put aside until I get the real shares (I doubt I'll get everything I asked for in oversubscription, but that's what it shows right now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenaidaMacroura Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 So it looks like we should start seeing our subscribed Liberty Broadband shares in our accounts soon. IB is showing my shares, but TDAmeritrade is not. How is IB showing your shares? Just as regular LBRDK? I looked this morning and still saw them as LBRDK.EX and LBRDK.OS, so I think it's just amounts that were put aside until I get the real shares (I doubt I'll get everything I asked for in oversubscription, but that's what it shows right now). I also asked for an unlikely amount of OS shares which currently have a placeholder on Ikbr but I doubt I'll get the amount it's showing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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