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I think he said on a conference call that the bond issue is to add size for his big target that will be announced in a month or so.  5.5% for 7 years isn't particularly cheap money - but it's more permanent than a margin loan.  Makes me think the large target is an activist position and not a 3G type investment where he doesn't want to change much.  Whatever the target is, it's likely bigger than $50 Billion MC.

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I was implying that the target company has a market cap higher than $50 Billion.  He probably has $22 Billion or so available across the funds plus whatever additional leverage he wants to employ.

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Gio and others, thanks for introducing this very interesting idea. 

 

Just wondering what you think about the structure of the fees? 

 

I have Buffett in mind:  when he transitioned investors from the partnerships to "permanent capital" in BRK, he stopped charging a performance fee and instead took a nominal salary and put almost all his net worth in the stock.  It was perfect alignment. 

 

I know Ackman is offering PSH shareholders a fee at least one fifth lower than his other funds... but imagine for a second this was any other company instead of a hedge fund:  how would you feel reading a proxy statement with these terms?

 

Please don't get me wrong.  I'm intrigued by the idea of Pershing 2.0 and recognise that historic performance net of fees has been exceptional.  I'm just not sure how I would feel about this structure five years down the line when PSH looks more like a holding company and less like a portfolio.

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I admire Ackman greatly, but I am concerned with this latest move for Mondelez.

 

My perception is that Irene Rosenfeld (MDLZ's CEO) is a (very) tough cookie and a skilled operator. I see limited MDLZ price upside and a limited actual opportunity for a corporate event. 

 

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Ackman's letters refer to sometimes protecting the portfolio by spending a little money on derivatives that would pay off big in a crash or other rare market move.

 

Does anyone know if these positions are disclosed/known?

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Are you Jeff Ubben?. Jeff posted exact same on twitter

 

 

I admire Ackman greatly, but I am concerned with this latest move for Mondelez.

 

My perception is that Irene Rosenfeld (MDLZ's CEO) is a (very) tough cookie and a skilled operator. I see limited MDLZ price upside and a limited actual opportunity for a corporate event.

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Are you Jeff Ubben?. Jeff posted exact same on twitter

 

 

I admire Ackman greatly, but I am concerned with this latest move for Mondelez.

 

My perception is that Irene Rosenfeld (MDLZ's CEO) is a (very) tough cookie and a skilled operator. I see limited MDLZ price upside and a limited actual opportunity for a corporate event.

 

Yes, he is the Jeff Ubben on twitter. No, the Jeff Ubben on twitter is not the actual Jeff Ubben from ValueAct.

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