no_free_lunch Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Open Text is a software company specializing in digital document management. I honestly don't know too much about them, I have followed them for about a year but have only recently started to look at them in depth. Both Donville Kent and Turtle Creek have mentioned them and I believe Donville Kent still owns them. These are both 20%+ firms. I will try to find their write-ups if I have a chance. The basic thesis is that they can grow organically at 5-10% and make bolt-on acquisitions via cash and a little debt. They have done this with great aptitude over the companies past history. I really think that the numbers speak for themselves. These are just crude numbers I put together off of edgar, sorry about the formatting. Year Free Cash Flow Shares Revenue Long-Term Debt Current Assets Comments 2014 375 120.5 1624 1256 815 2013 295 118 1363 513 717 2012 241 117.5 1207 555 790 Share Split 2011 186 58 1033 282 515 2010 160 57 912 285 544 2009 164 53 786 2008 160 52.6 725 305 430 2007 105 51 595 365 350 2006 40 50 410 13 230 2005 40 52 415 0 191 2004 31 47 291 0 272 2003 36 41.4 177 0 191 Share Split, I adjusted 2002 26.5 42.4 154.3 0 146 2001 6 43 149.7 0 124 2000 19 48.8 113 0 143 1999 -2 47 90 0 230 1998 -11 36 45 0 66 1997 -15 34 23 From 2000's 19m fcf to the 375m in 2014, even taking into account that there is 25% additional shares we have a 24x increase in fcf per share. That is about a 23% cagr. Obviously they can't be counted on to grow that fast in the future, although they just might, but based on most recent numbers it looks like they will hit aroung $450m fcf this year, which at current prices is 14-15x fcf. It seems like a reasonable valuation, given the past growth rate, reasonable debt levels and given where the S&P is at today. Their GAAP earnings per share is much weaker than their free cash flow due to their large d&a expenses from the various acquisitions. To me this is just fluff, it is about the free cash flow. I particularly like that unlike other high-growth acquisitions machines they have held the line, more or less, on both share count and debt. Debt has jacked up recently but if you back out current assets it is like 1.5x free cash flow. Very reasonable. The market didn't like their earnings in the most recent quarter but backing out foreign exchange they actually increased revenues by I believe 10%. They were also impacted by an increase in their tax rate from 14% to 18%. It sucks, but something beyond their control and still a very reasonable rate. They are a software company, increasingly cloud focused, so perhaps they could relocate if taxes get out of hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_free_lunch Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 From Turtle Creek case study, june 2013 Before we turn to the chart, let’s discuss Open Text in regards to our first edge, Security Selection. We endeavour to identify superior companies – highly intelligent organizations that earn superior returns for their investors. Open Text is a software company that has become a global leader in the large and growing Enterprise Information Management market. When we first invested in the company, revenue was $50 million. Today, revenue is over $1.4 billion and margins have strengthened, resulting in profitability increasing at an even faster rate than revenue. This profitable growth has been accomplished both organically and through acquisitions. Open Text has created substantial shareholder value – since 1999, the share price has increased from $20 to $70, an annualized return of 9.3%. As of today and aaccording to yahoo finance it has gone from $5.5 in january 1999 to $50 today. This represents a cagr in the share price of 15%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_free_lunch Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 As of February 5, OTEX was Donville Kent's 4th largest holding at 8.5% of the fund. FUND PROFILE Donville Kent Capital Ideas Fund Performance as of December 31, 2014 1 Month: Fund 1.21%, Index* -.44% 1 Year: Fund 22.68%, Index* 10.55% 3 Year: Fund 26.65%, Index* 10.22% * Index: S&P/TSX Total Return * The fund’s returns are based on reinvested dividends & are net of fees. *** Top 5 holdings and weightings: Concordia Healthcare – 12.30% Constellation Software – 11.80% CGI Group – 11.50% Open Text – 8.50% Enghouse – 6.30% http://www.bnn.ca/News/2015/2/5/Top-Picks-from-Jason-Donville-Valeant-Pharma-CGI-Group-and-Constellation-Software.aspx A brief writeup on his newsletter, the newsletter has some charts on the financials over the past 7 years. The basic seven-year historical track record of each company is presented below. In the first table we see that Open Text has experienced steady growth in both sales and cash earn ings over the past seven years. It is also worth noting that Open Text’s profit margins (based on cash earnings) have been high and gradually improving. At the bottom line, Open Text looks great with its ROAE consistently at or above the 20% level in each of the last seven years. Thus, from even this limited statistical vantage point, we see that Open Text is a very attractive Company to consideras a potential investment. http://www.donvillekent.com/pdf/DKAM-Newsletter_October_2014_Final.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petec Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 What does it actually do? ("Digital document management" doesn't mean much to me!) And why does it do it better than the next guy? Who is the next guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_free_lunch Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 They basically make software so that you can upload/download/search/build security/build processes around and on your documents. I don't know much about the competition, it definitely exists but I recall reading somewhere that they were one of the industry leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCLarkin Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I am accumulating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccap Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Is this a business at risk from Evernote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCLarkin Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Competition The market for our products and services is highly competitive, subject to rapid technological change and shifting customer needs and economic pressures. We compete with multiple companies, some that have single or narrow solutions and some that have a range of information management solutions, like ourselves. Our competitors are International Business Machines Corporation (IBM), EMC Corporation (EMC), Hewlett-Packard Company (HP) and Adobe. In certain markets, OpenText competes with Oracle and Microsoft, who are also our partners. In addition there are numerous, other niche software vendors in the information management space, such as j2, Axway, Seeburger Inc., and Pegasystems Inc., that compete with OpenText in certain segments of the EIM market. We also face competition from systems integrators that configure hardware and software into customized systems. Additionally, new competitors or alliances among existing competitors may emerge and could rapidly acquire additional market share. We also expect that competition will increase as a result of ongoing software industry consolidation. We believe that the principal competitive factors affecting the market for our software products and services include: (i) vendor and product reputation; (ii) product quality, performance and price; (iii) the availability of software products on multiple platforms; (iv) product scalability; (v) product integration with other enterprise applications; (vi) software functionality and features; (vii) software ease of use; (viii) the quality of professional services, customer support services and training; and (ix) the ability to address specific customer business problems. We believe the relative importance of each of these factors depends upon the concerns and needs of each specific customer. Box, Evernote, and Dropbox are indirect substitutes for some use cases but don't appear to pose a significant risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_free_lunch Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 They actually just won a lawsuit against box for patent infringement so there is definitely some overlap there. I honestly don't know evernote but just doing a 3 minute scan through their site I think they fall into the "narrow solutions" in KCLarkin's quote. I read somewhere that they are currently integrating over 300 different products (although some products are going to be more akin to features) into 7 different suites. So they really do have a large breadth of products. Competition is definitely the weak link on this thesis, I don't want to ignore that. I am relying on management's past track record, margin levels and the fact that from my experience large software packages tend to be quite sticky. They are also at a size where they can buy smaller companies and through a two-fold combintation they can use D&A to reduce the cost of the purchase and plug the product into their existing sales channels to increase revenue. Their is also likely some cost savings available as they reduce admin costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wachtwoord Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Thanks for bringing this company to my attention. I have initiated a position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCLarkin Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 The key to this thesis is to understand why established enterprise software companies tend to have wide moats. See Chapter 4 in Dorsey's Little Book that Builds Wealth. Canadian software companies also have an advantage over U.S. companies for M&A. Taxes are a bit lower but more importantly overseas cash doesn't get stranded. This makes it easier for Canadian companies to reinvest profits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_free_lunch Posted May 2, 2015 Author Share Posted May 2, 2015 According to this site, turtle creek asset management had 21% of their fund in OTEX as of Jan 31, 2014. The site is admittedly a bit sketchy, does anyone know what the official source of these type of filings is? http://www.j3sg.com/Reports/Stock-Insider/Generate-Institution-Portfolio.php?institutionid=13161&DV=yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiveSigma Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Turtle Creek has ~$750M in AUM. This data is from a 13-F, which includes only US securities. So the actual weight is ~4.5%. Hardly a high-conviction weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCLarkin Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 iIrc, They usually hold 20 stocks and aggressively scale up and down positions based on relative value. So 5% would be a typical position. Of course, that 13f data is old so things have likely changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_free_lunch Posted May 2, 2015 Author Share Posted May 2, 2015 Thanks FiveSigma. I didn't realize it was only US funds. Still though, if you think about it the Canadian holdings aren't disclosed, correct? OTEX is dual listed so it could also be held in their canadian funds. At any rate, don't mean to come off as a mindless bull but I still think that 20% of US funds is a good data point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_free_lunch Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 Just a comment that I updated the long-term numbers back to 97. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_free_lunch Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 Slightly dated, from 2013, but worth reading. " OpenText: A leader across all content segments, OpenText remains the biggest pure-play ECM platform vendor. Its ongoing acquisition strategy continues to extend its capabilities. Its strategy is focused on unifying all the content aspects of Enterprise Information Management rather than the EIM ideal of harmonizing all content and data in the organization. " http://www.cmswire.com/cms/information-management/forrester-wave-ecm-market-segments-as-emchp-ibm-opentext-lead-022621.php?pageNum=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_free_lunch Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 On Friday, OpenText announced it had entered into a definitive agreement to acquire Actuate for $6.60 a share in cash in a transaction valued at approximately $330-million. .. “OpenText is paying 2.5x sales but on forward consensus estimates, it looks closer to 3.1x.,” says Tse. “While it may not appear to be a bargain, we believe the potential synergies from this deal are value creating for OpenText even with Actuate’s recent challenges.” Tse says he doesn’t think the market is fully pricing in this acquisition, nor the company’s organic growth initiatives into the stock. And while Acutate has struggled with a business model that has transitioned from perpetual to subscription licenses and from general challenges in the market, the analyst says the fact that OpenText hasn’t always gone after market leaders simply hasn’t hurt its ability to derive value from them. In a research update to clients this morning, Tse maintained his “Buy” rating and one-year target of $70.00 on OpenText. http://www.cantechletter.com/2014/12/opentexts-acquisition-actuate-gets-thumbs-cormark/ It is only a 6% position for me, a lot of unknowns in the tech landscape but in general I like what the company has been doing. One concern is that the CEO has cancer so they might need to transition management. I know they have done that before, this is at least their 3rd CEO, but it is a risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCLarkin Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Donville mentioned them briefly on BNN Market Call Tonight. Still likes and owns OTC but prefers CGI which is at only 12x. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 50centdollars Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 The Company is providing today its outlook for Fourth Quarter Fiscal 2015. Ranges with approximate U.S. dollar amounts are: Revenue of $440 million to $455 million; Non-GAAP EPS of $0.64 to $0.72 per share, diluted, based on 123,054,000 shares outstanding as at March 31, 2015.� Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 50centdollars Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Open Text announced that its CEO, Mark Barrenechea, has resumed full involvement in the day-to-day operations of the company following his treatment for leukemia. Concurrently management provided disappointing guidance for the current quarter and announced a restructuring. Q4/15 revenues are expected to be $440-$455 million (by our math, down 4% y/y on an organic c/c basis) versus the consensus of $488 million while adj. EPS is expected to be $0.64 to $0.72 versus the consensus of $0.89. Based on this, we estimate that license revenues may have experienced a >20% y/y organic decline, albeit off of a tough comp. Management attributed the miss to FX, its transition from a license-focused to a cloud-focused model (which it believes might have a $5-10 million impact on license revenue for the quarter), and, to a lesser extent, a challenging macro environment. Open Text’s restructuring includes a reshuffling of the executive team (including the departure of the EVP Sales) and a 5% reduction to its workforce, which will come in large part from streamlining its sales organization. It expects to incur a $25 million restructuring charge that will result in $50 million in annualized opex savings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_free_lunch Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 I didn't think that the latest numbers were too bad. Just a continuation of last quarter's performance. I still see them as pulling $400m FCF this year, or $450m with their restructuring goal implemented. So maybe $450m vs a market cap of $5.26b, or about a 12 multiple. The market is pricing in a slowly deflating business. I will wait and see what happens. BTW good albeit slightly dated video here with the CEO: http://www.bnn.ca/News/2014/7/31/OpenText-CEO-defends-acquisition-strategy.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratiman Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 From Glassdoor: Lets detail the facts so you can formulate your own opinion to join 1. The company is a value company so the bottom line is everything! Growth, investment, innovation, employee value, all expendable to protect the bottom line 2. They buy broken and shrinking assets so by the nature of it you are selling, building, deploying solutions that exist and often decaying, are not priorities for customers or are commoditizing 3.,with commodizing solutions it's hard to sell more. So the renewal becomes everything. Power internally shifts to those teams and the field gets screwed along with customers. It's a viscous downward spiral seen by many a tech company death 3. A company like this can't attract or retain innovative and great leadership across all roles. Hence good people leave. Bad people stay.. Over the years it has resulted in a upper level leadership team that are incapable of action. Few good execs joined and now all left.. Leaving yes men 4. When you have leadership that is so mediocre then you get a command and control type structure in which the CEO dictates, monitors and tinkers with everything. This results in a paralyzed structure. It's on a scale unseen 5. The only way to keep the scheme going is to keep topping up through acquisitions faster than leaking out of the bottom. Works fine until even bad companies are expensive and then the bang moment .. It collapses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCLarkin Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 From Glassdoor: Are glassdoor reviews a useful investment tool? Ignoring the risk of fake reviews, I sometimes think there is an inverse correlation with good capital allocators. A company that buys unwanted companies, cuts employees, and manages expenses will likely have disgruntled employees. A company with private jets, excessive stock options, ping pong tables might get very good reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgis Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 From Glassdoor: Are glassdoor reviews a useful investment tool? Ignoring the risk of fake reviews, I sometimes think there is an inverse correlation with good capital allocators. A company that buys unwanted companies, cuts employees, and manages expenses will likely have disgruntled employees. A company with private jets, excessive stock options, ping pong tables might get very good reviews. OT? Glassdoor reviews are probably not useful investment tool. But you are being too simplistic too. Employee satisfaction may be a large part of company's success. Penny pinching, crappy salaries, crappy benefits, no future can be both signs of downward spiral and push the company into it even more. This is especially true for tech companies where the labor market is highly competitive. If the word on the street is that company is walking dead with crappy environment, they will not get any A tech people. They'll get B & Cs at best - if they have offices in less competitive markets. And if they get mediocre people working on their products, it's likely competitors will eat their lunch really soon. I sometimes wonder how Constellation does it. I guess their stock performance has been a large attraction so far. Maybe the environment is not bad (I don't know). And I guess they are in some niches where you can live without much new development, so perhaps they don't need that many great people. Plus if their niches are in old tech, they may get older people who are familiar with that and prefer stability of being in that area and company. Disclaimer: No opinion about OTEX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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