Fowci Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I'm looking at a very interesting insurer. The insurer is small, has exceptional underwriting profitability, and is growing very quickly. It's priced at approx 10x earnings. However, one particular issue is that it continually reports positive prior year claims expenses. So its 2013 income statement looks like this: http://s28.postimg.org/81foejwjt/image.jpg That looks pretty damn good. But in the notes, you see this: http://s28.postimg.org/7amy8ru6h/notes.jpg So the notes are saying that of the total net claims expense (after subtracting reinsurance reimbursements), 7.6m of 45.8m are reassessments of previous years. That's a full 17% of the total claims expense. This might not be particularly worrying except that the company is growing very quickly, as in GWP growth of like 30% a year. It would seem that if they habitually underexpense claims, this will distort underlying profitability. But when they stop growing, the bowwave of underexpensed claims will catch up and reduce profitability. Does that make sense? Anyone got any thoughts? By the way, the company is IPOing at the moment, and is called CBL insurance. I'm still very interested in the company. Management are keeping most of their shares, and there's still growth runway (they're only $300m market cap). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green King Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 what kind of risk do they deal with ? Where is the balance sheet? looks like a growth trap. Things like these could grow for years until one day it blows up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowci Posted October 3, 2015 Author Share Posted October 3, 2015 what kind of risk do they deal with ? Where is the balance sheet? looks like a growth trap. Things like these could grow for years until on day it blows up. http://www.cblinsurance.com/investor-centre/financials/ Lots of financials there. Here's a pic of the 2013 balance sheet: http://s15.postimg.org/tpmjo9whn/image.jpg upload And from the IPO offer document so you can see the growth: http://s21.postimg.org/mnijlaavb/growth.jpg free photo hosting It will be listed on the New Zealand and Australian stock exchange. They operate in niche areas, like French builder's liability insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green King Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I have nothing add. If you think they are using growth to cover up loss than pass on it. Its a trap. ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowci Posted October 3, 2015 Author Share Posted October 3, 2015 I have nothing add. If you think they are using growth to cover up loss than pass on it. Its a trap. ;D Thanks. It's a matter of degree - they're still profitable when adjusting for this, just not as profitable. I'll wait to see if the price comes down once listing is complete (in a few weeks). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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