LongTermView Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 http://www.rbr.com/wp-content/uploads/Debunking-the-Retail-Apocalypse-Final-Enterprise.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreign Tuffett Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Seritage is part of a group that has put together a proposal to entice Amazon to locate it's 2nd headquarters in Dallas: http://www.wfaa.com/money/amazon-proposed-second-headquarters-north-dallas-texas-photos-dbj/479363133 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyhound Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Seritage is part of a group that has put together a proposal to entice Amazon to locate it's 2nd headquarters in Dallas: http://www.wfaa.com/money/amazon-proposed-second-headquarters-north-dallas-texas-photos-dbj/479363133 The possibilities of these aging Sears locations are endless. Even repurposing it for your competitors HQ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTermView Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 https://www.wsj.com/articles/retail-real-estate-holds-steady-despite-store-closures-1507053715 Overall, the retail vacancy rate across different types of malls and retail centers stayed flat at 10% in the third quarter from the second quarter, with asking rents rising 0.4% to $20.74 a square foot from the previous quarter and up 1.8% year-over-year. ... Lower construction activity helped to rein in supply and support occupancy levels. ... the restaurant sector as well as grocery stores and fitness centers are continuing to expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyhound Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 The industry statistics really goes to show that the retail apocalypse line is overblown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTShine Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 The industry statistics really goes to show that the retail apocalypse line is overblown. Totally agree. Particularly the retail real estate apocalypse line. Yes, retailers are closing stores and losing share to online, but many other retailers are filling the physical space with different offerings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyhound Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/money/business/development/2017/10/05/nordstrom-rack-opens-new-east-memphis-poplar-commons/733814001/ Nordstrom Rack opens at former Sears location in East Memphis. Seritage is the landlord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTermView Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Looked at the 10/16/2017 BERKOWITZ BRUCE R http://www.snl.com/IRWeblinkx/ShowFile.aspx?KeyFile=390662038&Output=XML&Format=XML Form 4 today and took some notes regarding the 19 lines: ### 1. Disposed 438,931 A shares bringing the total down from 4,205,581 to 3,766,650.* 2. & 3. Disposed then Acquired 846,299 C shares keeping him at 5,428,130. 4. & 5. Disposed then Acquired 871,672 C shares keeping him at 5,428,130. 6. Disposed 650,548 C shares bringing the total down from 5,428,130 to 4,777,582.* 7. Acquired 650,548 C shares in DIRECT acct bringing the total from 35,850 to 686,398. 8. Disposed 11,700 C shares bringing the total down from 4,777,582 to 4,765,882.* 9. & 10. Acquired then Disposed 11,700 A shares keeping him at 3,766,650. 11. Disposed 90,900 C shares bringing the total down from 4,765,882 to 4,674,982.* 12. & 13. Acquired then Disposed 90,900 A shares keeping him at 3,766,650. 14. Disposed 68,700 C shares bringing the total down from 4,674,982 to 4,606,282.* 15. & 16. Acquired then Disposed 68,700 A shares keeping him at 3,766,650. 17. Disposed 29,200 C shares & lost beneficial ownership of 5,151 shares per footnote (9) bringing the total down from 4,606,282 to 4,571,931.* 18. & 19. Acquired then Disposed 29,200 A shares keeping him at 3,766,650. Bottom Line: Disposed 438,931 A shares bringing the total down from 4,205,581 to 3,766,650. Disposed 200,500 or [11,700 + 90,900 + 68,700 + 29,200] C shares, lost beneficial ownership of 5,151 C shares and distributed 650,548 C shares to direct bringing the indirect total down by 856,199 from 5,428,130 to 4,571,931. ### Does the summary below sound correct for his indirect ownership? Sold 438,931 A shares. Sold 200,500 C shares. Lost beneficial ownership of 5,151 C shares. Distributed 650,548 C shares to direct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreign Tuffett Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 With Berkowitz winding up his hedge fund we'll likely see short term selling pressure as shares distributed to LPs are sold off. On a more positive note, a SRG spokesperson has confirmed a new $20 million development of half their Broward Mall space. I believe this redevelopment had not been announced previously. https://therealdeal.com/miami/2017/10/12/sears-at-broward-mall-in-plantation-to-be-redeveloped/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowAppreciation Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Looked at the 10/16/2017 BERKOWITZ BRUCE R http://www.snl.com/IRWeblinkx/ShowFile.aspx?KeyFile=390662038&Output=XML&Format=XML Form 4 today and took some notes regarding the 19 lines: ### 1. Disposed 438,931 A shares bringing the total down from 4,205,581 to 3,766,650.* 2. & 3. Disposed then Acquired 846,299 C shares keeping him at 5,428,130. 4. & 5. Disposed then Acquired 871,672 C shares keeping him at 5,428,130. 6. Disposed 650,548 C shares bringing the total down from 5,428,130 to 4,777,582.* 7. Acquired 650,548 C shares in DIRECT acct bringing the total from 35,850 to 686,398. 8. Disposed 11,700 C shares bringing the total down from 4,777,582 to 4,765,882.* 9. & 10. Acquired then Disposed 11,700 A shares keeping him at 3,766,650. 11. Disposed 90,900 C shares bringing the total down from 4,765,882 to 4,674,982.* 12. & 13. Acquired then Disposed 90,900 A shares keeping him at 3,766,650. 14. Disposed 68,700 C shares bringing the total down from 4,674,982 to 4,606,282.* 15. & 16. Acquired then Disposed 68,700 A shares keeping him at 3,766,650. 17. Disposed 29,200 C shares & lost beneficial ownership of 5,151 shares per footnote (9) bringing the total down from 4,606,282 to 4,571,931.* 18. & 19. Acquired then Disposed 29,200 A shares keeping him at 3,766,650. Bottom Line: Disposed 438,931 A shares bringing the total down from 4,205,581 to 3,766,650. Disposed 200,500 or [11,700 + 90,900 + 68,700 + 29,200] C shares, lost beneficial ownership of 5,151 C shares and distributed 650,548 C shares to direct bringing the indirect total down by 856,199 from 5,428,130 to 4,571,931. ### Does the summary below sound correct for his indirect ownership? Sold 438,931 A shares. Sold 200,500 C shares. Lost beneficial ownership of 5,151 C shares. Distributed 650,548 C shares to direct. The 13F on 8/14 showed SRG holdings at 3.8m: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1056831/000091957417006238/xslForm13F_X01/infotable.xml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTermView Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 We know Seritage sold their 50% interest in 8 of the 12 original GGP JVs for $190.1 million in July. Foreign Tuffett noted that in the spring of '18 Seritage has the right to sell their interest in the other original JVs: I expect that we'll see SRG monetize more of its JVs in the future, and suspect that this was the plan all along. Here's a quote from SRG's S-11 filing: "at any time after March 31, 2018 in the case of the GGP JV, April 13, 2018, in the case of the Simon JV, and April 30, 2018 in the case of the Macerich JV we will have the right to cause GGP to purchase from the GGP JV, Simon to purchase from the Simon JV, or Macerich to purchase from the Macerich JV, as applicable, any JV Property owned by the applicable JV with respect to which a certain third party leasing threshold has been satisfied at the fair market value of the property, less certain mortgage loans and other debt in respect of such property and certain selling expenses." If they sell in the spring of '18 and we assume valuations are similar to today then about how much can they get for their 50% interest in the other 4 original GGP JVs, the 10 Simon JVs and the 9 Macerich JVs? How quickly could they be sold once we're past the spring '18 dates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreign Tuffett Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 We know Seritage sold their 50% interest in 8 of the 12 original GGP JVs for $190.1 million in July. Foreign Tuffett noted that in the spring of '18 Seritage has the right to sell their interest in the other original JVs: I expect that we'll see SRG monetize more of its JVs in the future, and suspect that this was the plan all along. Here's a quote from SRG's S-11 filing: "at any time after March 31, 2018 in the case of the GGP JV, April 13, 2018, in the case of the Simon JV, and April 30, 2018 in the case of the Macerich JV we will have the right to cause GGP to purchase from the GGP JV, Simon to purchase from the Simon JV, or Macerich to purchase from the Macerich JV, as applicable, any JV Property owned by the applicable JV [glow=red,2,300]with respect to which a certain third party leasing threshold has been satisfied[/glow] at the fair market value of the property, less certain mortgage loans and other debt in respect of such property and certain selling expenses." If they sell in the spring of '18 and we assume valuations are similar to today then about how much can they get for their 50% interest in the other 4 original GGP JVs, the 10 Simon JVs and the 9 Macerich JVs? How quickly could they be sold once we're past the spring '18 dates? I don't think SRG is going to be able to force Simon and Macerich to sell in the near term due to the clause I highlighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepydragon Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 I've spent a healthy chunk of time analyzing this and have taken a position. By my best and most conservative estimates, Sears would have to both declare bankruptcy and reject all of the leases in the portfolio within the next 6 to 8 quarters in order to put Seritage in a bad situation. And even then, as long as SRG could access external financing at a reasonable rate of funding, they should be able to survive without too much trouble. Beyond 8 quarters, the company should be able to generate positive cash flow even if Sears suddenly disappears off the face of the Earth - the one large assumption here is that they're able to continue to recapture and redevelop properties at the same rate that they have been for the last few quarters. If that suddenly drastically slows then it's a different story. So that's the downside scenario. The upside is massive, and I think will happen more quickly than most people expect. A complete turnover of the portfolio (meaning Sears completely gone and new tenants brought in) gets me a price target of ~$224 using an FFO model and $204 using an NAV model. By my estimates this should take somewhere around 15 years, giving us an annual return of ~11%. This doesn't take into account any rental inflation, any growth in the portfolio, or really any other sort of excess return that could be generated by the management team. This is a pure, steady-state portfolio turnover. So I think there's probably upside even to my estimates. For anyone who is concerned about the near term Sears bankruptcy risk, it is somewhat cost effective to hedge a position in SRG by buying long-dated SHLD puts. The Jan '18 expiration covers most of the risk, as by my estimates the risk should be greatly diminished past that point and an investment should no longer need a SHLD hedge after that date. I think a fully redeveloped share value in the $200 range that you put out there is entirely reasonable. The 15-year timeframe might be optimistic. Getting there would require both Sears and Kmart to be completely gone by then, and it would imply a redevelopment pace of roughly 2.4 million square feet per year (about 2.5 times their current run-rate). Given the secular trends in bricks and mortar retail (we have too many stores already), I think that is much more of a challenge than dealing with the Sears solvency risks. That said, it's pretty easy to see why Buffett liked this at $36 per share. Would it be possible the WEB actually bought Sears instead of SRG, and got his SRG from the spinoff? And therefore as a result, he got caught reporting the form 4 which otherwise he won't have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfp Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Would it be possible the WEB actually bought Sears instead of SRG, and got his SRG from the spinoff? And therefore as a result, he got caught reporting the form 4 which otherwise he won't have to. I don't think that is the case. He would have filed his 13d much earlier than December 2015. The filing seems to indicate he crossed into reporting territory on November 30th 2015. Also his shareholding is a very round number, exactly 2 million shares, which seems like he bought them as SRG shares. It is possible that he held SHLD, received SRG shares, then topped up his SRG shares in the open market to above 5% and stopped at an even number of shares. https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315090/000119312515399523/d103925dsc13g.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepydragon Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Would it be possible the WEB actually bought Sears instead of SRG, and got his SRG from the spinoff? And therefore as a result, he got caught reporting the form 4 which otherwise he won't have to. I don't think that is the case. He would have filed his 13d much earlier than December 2015. The filing seems to indicate he crossed into reporting territory on November 30th 2015. Also his shareholding is a very round number, exactly 2 million shares, which seems like he bought them as SRG shares. It is possible that he held SHLD, received SRG shares, then topped up his SRG shares in the open market to above 5% and stopped at an even number of shares. https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315090/000119312515399523/d103925dsc13g.htm The 2 million round number is a good point! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTermView Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I don't think SRG is going to be able to force Simon and Macerich to sell in the near term due to the clause I highlighted. Yeah, I guess it can't be forced for some time due to the thrid party leasing threshold. On another note, AMC Theatres to join SRG redevelopment property at Orland Square in Orland Park, Illinois: http://ir.seritage.com/file/Index?KeyFile=390750171 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaufort Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Re SRG Mortgage Loans Payable from page 41 of the following 2016 annual report: http://www.snl.com/Cache/c38312861.html On July 7, 2015, pursuant to the Transaction, the Company entered into a mortgage loan agreement (the “Mortgage Loan Agreement”) and mezzanine loan agreement (collectively, the “Loan Agreements”) providing for term loans in an initial principal amount of approximately $1,161 million (collectively, the “Mortgage Loans”) and a $100 million future funding facility (the “Future Funding Facility”), which we expect to be available to us to finance the redevelopment of properties in our portfolio from time to time, subject to satisfaction of certain conditions. As of December 31, 2016, the total principal amounts outstanding under the Mortgage Loans and the Future Funding Facility were $1,161 million and $20 million, respectively, and $80 million remained available under the Future Funding Facility for future draws by the Company. Interest under the Mortgage Loans and Future Funding Facility is due and payable on the payment dates, and all outstanding principal amounts are due when the loans mature on the payment date in July 2019, pursuant to the Loan Agreements. The Company has two one-year extension options subject to the payment of an extension fee and satisfaction of certain other conditions. Borrowings under the Mortgage Loans and Future Funding Facility bear interest at the London Interbank Offered Rates (“LIBOR”) plus, as of December 31, 2016, a weighted-average spread of 465 basis points; payments are made monthly on an interest-only basis. The weighted-average interest rate for the Mortgage Loans and Future Funding Facility for the year ended December 31, 2016 was 5.24%. For the period from July 7, 2015 (Date Operations Commenced) through December 31, 2015, the weighted-average interest rate for the Mortgage Loans was 4.96%. The Loan Agreements contain a yield maintenance provision for the early extinguishment of the debt before March 9, 2018. Given SRG's ability to refinance without penalty by March 9, 2018 and the fact that there will have been, ballpark, $1.5B in value creation according SRG, why wouldn't SRG be able to refinance the mortgage or issue bonds on more favourable financial terms to both cover redevelopment if SHLD rejects the master lease in a formal BK (and no other bidder comes along)and pay maintenance capex. Page 6 of the RBC initiation report dated Sept 6, 2016 says the loan becomes due in July 2019, but is prepayable in January 2018. Page 7, 2017 SRG presentation: http://ir.seritage.com/Cache/1001227621.PDF?O=PDF&T=&Y=&D=&FID=1001227621&iid=4584761 In this way, I think SRG doesn't need SHLD to survive for as long as has been previously suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyow Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Buffett couldn't buy sears even if he wanted to. It would confuse his followers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTermView Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 https://seekingalpha.com/article/4117650-simon-property-group-spg-q3-2017-results-earnings-call-transcript?part=single [David Simon] As you know, we did own Seritage stock, we did sell that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WneverLOSE Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Seritage has 2$ per share of FFO and they pay 1$ per share in dividends. My question is why ? I know that they must pay 90% of taxable income to qualify as a REIT but SRG has net loss and they could use the money to diversify away from sears much quicker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spekulatius Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Seritage has 2$ per share of FFO and they pay 1$ per share in dividends. My question is why ? I know that they must pay 90% of taxable income to qualify as a REIT but SRG has net loss and they could use the money to diversify away from sears much quicker... It is correct that SRG does not need to pay a dividend for tax reasons right now, due to showing losses. The reason SRG does pay is probably because it is customary for a REIT to do so and it makes it an easy sell to institutional investors, some of which require a stock to be dividend paying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WneverLOSE Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 It is correct that SRG does not need to pay a dividend for tax reasons right now, due to showing losses. The reason SRG does pay is probably because it is customary for a REIT to do so and it makes it an easy sell to institutional investors, some of which require a stock to be dividend paying. seems very excessive to me for them to pay 50% in dividends while having to redevelop 90%+ of their assets at what seems to be a very attractive returns. Is it that simple ? management will sacrifice good capital allocation for short term approval of investors (I would call them renters and not owners but this is another story) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spekulatius Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 It is correct that SRG does not need to pay a dividend for tax reasons right now, due to showing losses. The reason SRG does pay is probably because it is customary for a REIT to do so and it makes it an easy sell to institutional investors, some of which require a stock to be dividend paying. seems very excessive to me for them to pay 50% in dividends while having to redevelop 90%+ of their assets at what seems to be a very attractive returns. Is it that simple ? management will sacrifice good capital allocation for short term approval of investors (I would call them renters and not owners but this is another story) It probably is that simple, unless you have a different explanation. I don’t know any REIT that does not pay a dividend, unless it is in deep distress. Even in 2009, most if not all Reits continued to pay a Evis den (albeit drastically reduced), even after deeply discounted secondaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTShine Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 From my understanding the dividend is purely tax related. They pay the dividend because the rules of REIT's say they must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spekulatius Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 From my understanding the dividend is purely tax related. They pay the dividend because the rules of REIT's say they must. Reits are required to pay out at least 90% of taxabable income as dividend. Since SRG is still having losses, I don’t think they would need to pay out anything at this point. https://www.sec.gov/fast-answers/answersreitshtm.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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