pcm983 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-government-may-want-to-buy-your-dying-mall-1536663601 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTermView Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 http://ir.seritage.com/file/Index?KeyFile=395046782 ...today announced that construction has commenced to transform the former Sears building located in the heart of Santa Monica into The Mark 302, an iconic creative office and retail destination situated blocks from the beach in one of the most desirable locations in the country. The Mark 302, totaling approximately 100,000 square feet, represents a rare workplace opportunity with high exposure in the center of downtown Santa Monica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTermView Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 https://therealdeal.com/chicago/2018/09/20/seritage-tucker-propose-mixed-use-development-at-portage-parks-6-corners/ The owner of a shuttered Sears store in Portage Park’s Six Corners district is teaming up with Highland Park-based Tucker Development to propose a block-sized complex with 550 apartments and more than 160,000 square feet of retail space. The landlord, Seritage Growth Properties, released renderings imagining a movie theater and fitness center inside a redevelopment of the existing building at 4730 West Irving Park Road, according to Nadig Newspapers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcm983 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 here we go!!! https://www.wsj.com/articles/sears-hires-advisers-to-prepare-bankruptcy-filing-1539136189?mod=breakingnews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpioncapital Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 So now that Sears is effectively bankrupt, how does this effect SRG? The market seems to have taken a 6% hit on the news. Rational? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreign Tuffett Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 So now that Sears is effectively bankrupt, how does this effect SRG? The market seems to have taken a 6% hit on the news. Rational? I would argue that SHLD has effectively been bankrupt for some time. The news is that it may literally go bankrupt in a matter of days. While it's tough to judge how much SRG should decline, I think the decline is at least directionally correct: the prospect of SHLD filing bankruptcy is bad for SRG. Anything might happen with the master lease in a bankruptcy scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpioncapital Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 The question is if the 47% or so of Sears rent to SRG has also been discounted to zero by the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saluki Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 As part of the spinoff SHLD had a right to put 20% of it's stores back each year to SRG if it paid 1 year's rent on the properties. (so it should take 5 years for SRG to slowly go from 90% SHLD tenant revenue to something more diversified). SHLD will still have to pay rent on the stores it decides to keep, but might not have to give the 1 year payment to SRG. I think prior to BRK lending $2 billion at favorable rates to SRG, this would be a problem (how do you get the $$$ to redevelop stores if the biggest tenant goes under), but it should be workable for SRG now. Not the best outcome, but not an existential threat anymore. The bankruptcy timing is surprising though, when I worked at a retailer in college 30% of the stores revenues occurred in December, so i'm surprised SHLD didn't try to stick it out another 60 days and get one last wave of money coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizaro86 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 ESL is so far into the debt now I wonder if they want to hold the liquidation sale in Nov-Dec to try and get the inventory sold off fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vince Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 On 3 different occasions I bought and sold SRG and lost money on all 3. Im not touching it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreign Tuffett Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 As part of the spinoff SHLD had a right to put 20% of it's stores back each year to SRG if it paid 1 year's rent on the properties. (so it should take 5 years for SRG to slowly go from 90% SHLD tenant revenue to something more diversified). SHLD will still have to pay rent on the stores it decides to keep, but might not have to give the 1 year payment to SRG. I think prior to BRK lending $2 billion at favorable rates to SRG, this would be a problem (how do you get the $$$ to redevelop stores if the biggest tenant goes under), but it should be workable for SRG now. Not the best outcome, but not an existential threat anymore. The bankruptcy timing is surprising though, when I worked at a retailer in college 30% of the stores revenues occurred in December, so i'm surprised SHLD didn't try to stick it out another 60 days and get one last wave of money coming in. Re the bolded: what makes you think that? IMO one of the things the market is afraid of is that a bankruptcy court will invalidate the master lease. Re the second paragraph: there is a game of "chicken" going on here between Lampert and some of the bondholders. Seeking Alpha user "fxfx" (no affiliation) explains the situation well. https://seekingalpha.com/news/3396248-sears-minus-20-percent-bankruptcy-looms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saluki Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Sorry, I can't read the seekingalpha article b/c of the paywall. I'm assuming (based on my general understanding of retail, not from having read SHLDs annual report) that not every location is losing money. Some must be profitable and others losing money, but on average the whole is losing money. Since they've been handing back store leases for almost 3 years now, they must be handing back the ones that are losing the most and holding onto the ones that are profitable or could be turned around. I'm not an expert but my understanding is that in bankruptcy the judge can decide which executory (contracts in which both sides have to perform, like a lease, as opposed to debt where only one side has to perform) contracts to keep and which to discharge. If they do away with the master lease completely, they would lose the remaining profitable stores, the rights to sublet some of the valuable leases that they don't give back and the right to get paid if SRG wants to take back a lease that SHLD didn't want to give up. So, for instance, if SHLD gave SRG back half the square footage of a giant box and SRG paid to redevelop it, the remaining half is worth a lot more if you can assign the lease to a 3rd party. If SRG had individual leases for the properties, I think it would look a lot different, but if it's all under the master lease and the options are take it all or leave it all, then I think SHLD has some strong incentives to hold onto it or to use the threat of cancelling to renegotiate. But they can't have it both ways, if they want to stay in the properties, then the master lease has to be accepted. It's still too early to guess how this will play out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saluki Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 As part of the spinoff SHLD had a right to put 20% of it's stores back each year to SRG if it paid 1 year's rent on the properties. (so it should take 5 years for SRG to slowly go from 90% SHLD tenant revenue to something more diversified). SHLD will still have to pay rent on the stores it decides to keep, but might not have to give the 1 year payment to SRG. I think prior to BRK lending $2 billion at favorable rates to SRG, this would be a problem (how do you get the $$$ to redevelop stores if the biggest tenant goes under), but it should be workable for SRG now. Not the best outcome, but not an existential threat anymore. The bankruptcy timing is surprising though, when I worked at a retailer in college 30% of the stores revenues occurred in December, so i'm surprised SHLD didn't try to stick it out another 60 days and get one last wave of money coming in. Re the bolded: what makes you think that? IMO one of the things the market is afraid of is that a bankruptcy court will invalidate the master lease. Re the second paragraph: there is a game of "chicken" going on here between Lampert and some of the bondholders. Seeking Alpha user "fxfx" (no affiliation) explains the situation well. https://seekingalpha.com/news/3396248-sears-minus-20-percent-bankruptcy-looms Sorry, I just re-read this and I think I misunderstood what you were asking. Yes, you are correct, they probably couldn't just reject the 1 year payments and keep the rest of the master lease in tact. I assumed they would negotiate and say "if you do away with the 1 year payments, we can keep handing back the leases to you slowly (maybe 25 or 30% a year instead of 20%), or we can cancel the entire master lease and let you drink from the fire hose." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreign Tuffett Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Sorry, I can't read the seekingalpha article b/c of the paywall. I'm assuming (based on my general understanding of retail, not from having read SHLDs annual report) that not every location is losing money. Some must be profitable and others losing money, but on average the whole is losing money. Since they've been handing back store leases for almost 3 years now, they must be handing back the ones that are losing the most and holding onto the ones that are profitable or could be turned around. I'm not an expert but my understanding is that in bankruptcy the judge can decide which executory (contracts in which both sides have to perform, like a lease, as opposed to debt where only one side has to perform) contracts to keep and which to discharge. If they do away with the master lease completely, they would lose the remaining profitable stores, the rights to sublet some of the valuable leases that they don't give back and the right to get paid if SRG wants to take back a lease that SHLD didn't want to give up. So, for instance, if SHLD gave SRG back half the square footage of a giant box and SRG paid to redevelop it, the remaining half is worth a lot more if you can assign the lease to a 3rd party. If SRG had individual leases for the properties, I think it would look a lot different, but if it's all under the master lease and the options are take it all or leave it all, then I think SHLD has some strong incentives to hold onto it or to use the threat of cancelling to renegotiate. But they can't have it both ways, if they want to stay in the properties, then the master lease has to be accepted. It's still too early to guess how this will play out. It's a link to a news story and comment thread. You might have to create a Seeking Alpha profile to read it, but it's free. What you're saying makes sense, but I am skeptical that their stores that are 4 wall profitable can generate the cash flow to cover non-store overhead. Also, at some point they are going to start suffering from reverse economies of scale as the store base continues to rapidly shrink. Let's assume they have 200 stores that are 4 wall profitable. If those 200 stores are scattered across the country it will be very difficult to right size the logistics and supply chain in a way that allows the company to be a viable enterprise going forward. IIRC American Apparel was an example of this issue. I'm not a bankruptcy expert by any means, but it wouldn't surprise me if all retail operations of the company are liquidated (a la Toys R Us) if they file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoCitiesCapital Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 This has only be a small position (~2%) for me opened earlier this year around $40. When WB announced the $ and the stock jumped 20-25% shortly thereafter, I let go of the about 20% of the position to take all the gains off the table. While the long-term development is intact, there are too many headwinds with rising rates and an expected Sears bankruptcy on the horizon to not take quick and easy gains like that. Ultimately, I'd love to repurchase all of those share, and then some, but I want some of the negativity to be worked out and my guess there will be other opportunities to buy at lower prices than $50/share while that is happening. If we hit $40/share again, I expect I'll be buying back everything that was sold plus some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpRaider Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Not very scientific, but I decided a while ago to wait until sears filed and the press started talking about the potential for fraudulent transfer issues before looking more closely again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 We've known SHLD is going bankrupt for a long time, I believe the market expected it to most likely be this year or early next (based on sell side reports). With the new loan from Berkshire... I view this as largely a non-issue. We know the value is there and the path to realize it is pretty clear. They will continue to develop properties and I would imagine some additional financing could be raised as they show progress. Both Eddie and WEB have a vested interest in making this work. Eddie controls the tenant going bankrupt and is a massive holder of SRG equity. WEB owns the debt and a good slug of equity. It is a pretty good set-up, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadMan24 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 without that loan, the stock would be getting crushed. sears liquidation would hurt with no financing back drop and sharks would be swimming for higher rates. Everyone tried to sell the story 7% was highway robbery. It wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTShine Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 without that loan, the stock would be getting crushed. sears liquidation would hurt with no financing back drop and sharks would be swimming for higher rates. Everyone tried to sell the story 7% was highway robbery. It wasn't. Agreed. Also, Shane you’re right. The present value of the rental stream from SHLD was not more than a couple hundred million. The value created via redevelopment, if it goes well, is over $500m a year. The real story here is redevelopment. It’s not rent from SHLD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saluki Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I would keep an eye on the cumulative redeemable preferreds. I'm overweight SRG so I don't know if I'd buy more common, but I regret not getting the preferred (SRG-PA) when it was down at $20 (callable at $25). It pays over 7%, is cumulative and when it dropped down to $20 the effective interest rate was +11% if I recall correctly. It's higher up in priority than the common in case of bankruptcy, has a $25 liquidation preferrence and if the common is investable then the preferreds are money good. It's trading just under $23 now, so not a screaming bargain but if SHLD files for bankruptcy it might look attractive on the dip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 without that loan, the stock would be getting crushed. sears liquidation would hurt with no financing back drop and sharks would be swimming for higher rates. Everyone tried to sell the story 7% was highway robbery. It wasn't. This is true, but the company has been working on a refinancing option for a long time. The management is quality, they're not going to sit on their hands waiting for a disaster to strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candyman1 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 SRG will lose about $33.5 million in revenues from SHLD it looks like based on the Q2 number. Out of total revenues for Q2 of $49.2 million. If one annualizes the SHLD payments one gets to a loss of revenue from SHLD of $134 million. Assuming there is a Chapter 7 filing. Not sure how much SRG will be able to get out of the SHLD Chapter 7 or 11 filing. Not sure how SHLD is able to make it through Chapter 11. Just the process will cost a lot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candyman1 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 without that loan, the stock would be getting crushed. sears liquidation would hurt with no financing back drop and sharks would be swimming for higher rates. Everyone tried to sell the story 7% was highway robbery. It wasn't. This is true, but the company has been working on a refinancing option for a long time. The management is quality, they're not going to sit on their hands waiting for a disaster to strike. Keep in mind that at the same time SRG management is supposed to raise a lot more money it looks it is about to lose $134 million in revenue payments from SHLD. The Q2 loss would have been about $78 million rather than $44 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candyman1 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 without that loan, the stock would be getting crushed. sears liquidation would hurt with no financing back drop and sharks would be swimming for higher rates. Everyone tried to sell the story 7% was highway robbery. It wasn't. This is true, but the company has been working on a refinancing option for a long time. The management is quality, they're not going to sit on their hands waiting for a disaster to strike. Keep in mind that at the same time SRG management is supposed to raise a lot more money it looks it is about to lose $134 million in revenue payments from SHLD. The Q2 loss would have been about $78 million rather than $44 million. One more point ... it seems Eddie L and SHLD weren't expecting to file as they seem to still be looking for DIP financing. Not sure why you think SRG management was aware already of the coming BK filing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candyman1 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 without that loan, the stock would be getting crushed. sears liquidation would hurt with no financing back drop and sharks would be swimming for higher rates. Everyone tried to sell the story 7% was highway robbery. It wasn't. This is true, but the company has been working on a refinancing option for a long time. The management is quality, they're not going to sit on their hands waiting for a disaster to strike. Keep in mind that at the same time SRG management is supposed to raise a lot more money it looks it is about to lose $134 million in revenue payments from SHLD. The Q2 loss would have been about $78 million rather than $44 million. One more point ... it seems Eddie L and SHLD weren't expecting to file as they seem to still be looking for DIP financing. Not sure why you think SRG management was aware already of the coming BK filing. And in case of a Chapter 7 filing, 900 more SHLD stores are about to hit the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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