_JJ_ Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Stable cash flow property management company in China backed by Vision Knight Capital (run by ex-Alibaba CEO David Wei). Briarwood Chase Management (run by Sum Zero co-founder Aalap Mahadevia) owns 8%. Market cap 674M HKD. Net cash 317M HKD. Projected FY 2017 net profit: 100M HKD. Decent write-up on VIC: https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/Zhong_Ao_Home_Group/139159#description Thesis seems to play out, but stock price is lagging. O2O loss has been reduced significantly. Stable cash flows from property management. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winjitsu Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Statistically looks amazing. 100% growth... trading at ~3x cashless PE? I'll start looking into it and happy to shares notes once I'm done. I'd be sold if someone would share their offline research regarding the product / platform. Don't see too much on that front in the VIC write up. On O2O, I'm skeptical that this smaller start-up will create a superior distribution platform, given the amount of money that BABA and JD and pouring into the space, along with the traditional logistics players. I hope this doesn't damage the thesis. Another big point of DD: is cash truly free? I've come across a couple companies now with large cash balances that have some off balance sheet liabilities [eg. collateral for insurance]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_JJ_ Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 FY 2017 results were published today. http://www.hkexnews.hk/listedco/listconews/sehk/2018/0327/LTN201803271343.pdf EPS 0.14 HKD 0.05 HKD dividend declared net cash 0.60 HKD Share price 0.93 HKD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saj Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 With so much cash, why have they been increasing debt? That's a bit of a red flag for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_JJ_ Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 There's not much debt and it's down YoY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saj Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 There's not much debt and it's down YoY? You're right. But it was up significantly in 2016 despite the huge cash balance. Furthermore, at Dec 31st 2016, $45M of the debt was considered due in less than a year. Yet by Dec 31st 2017, debt had decreased by substantially less than that, suggesting the company delayed/re-fied etc. So they are willing to pay more interest than they have to despite a huge cash balance. The interest itself is not that material. It's the warning sign that scares me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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