nickenumbers Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Does anyone have an Excel valuation model that you would be willing to share? A model that you could plug a series of future cash flows for a company, and run a DCF. Maybe add assets, subtract debt, etc. I have a couple basic no frills ones that work, and I have access to a lot of excessively complicated business school ones. If anyone has something that they use when they want to 10K view or get into the weeds on a company's financial statements, I would enjoy seeing your approach. Perhaps the world will repay you with high future returns for your contribution to fellow CoBF members. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 If you want a simple DCF type stuff you can build a basic one in like 7 minutes. I'm of the firm belief that models should be flexible because the world is complicated and models should reflect that. Something where u plug some numbers in and spits out an answer won't be that great. Anyway, here's one that I've built when I was in grad school and I've used it on and off since then. It's a Bruce Greenwald type model. Would work better on asset heavy type companies. Have fun with it.CSCO_-_Q3_2011_temp.xlsx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary17 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 RB i see you learned a lot about valuation in grad school question for you assuming ROIC > WACC , and all else being equal, would you say a company with low ROIC and high growth is more valuable or a company with high ROIC but low growth? Thanks Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 RB i see you learned a lot about valuation in grad school question for you assuming ROIC > WACC , and all else being equal, would you say a company with low ROIC and high growth is more valuable or a company with high ROIC but low growth? Thanks Gary Gary, honestly I didn't learn much about valuation in school that I didn't already know. It was fun though. Anyway, there's no real answer to your question. As long as ROIC>WACC growth creates value. So you have Company A with a lower ROIC and high growth and Company B with high ROIC and low growth. If you assume ceteris paribus that both A and B have their ROIC>WACC then both crate value. Which one creates more value would depend on the relative differences between their ROICs and their growth rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary17 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 I see. thanks maybe I ask differently — which one is a better business to own long term? my initial thought is high ROiC means the business has a stronger competitive advantage ; so if given the choice , i’d own the one with higher ROIC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnarkyPuppy Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 I see. thanks maybe I ask differently — which one is a better business to own long term? my initial thought is high ROiC means the business has a stronger competitive advantage ; so if given the choice , i’d own the one with higher ROIC. There's no one-size fits all way of looking at this. In general, higher ROIC is better than lower ROIC (when ROIC>WACC). But when analyzing a business, ROIC is simply one data point and even knowing ROIC alone from a quantitative perspective is insufficient. Just as important is the sustainability of that ROIC - which requires qualitative assessments about the strength of the business unit economics, competitive advantage, management/customer/supplier incentives, and overall industry structure (e.g. product penetration rates). ROIC is definitely on average one of the more important data points to consider when analyzing a business. I think more important though is to simply spend a lot of time analyzing businesses and learning how to identify key variables that drive value. Every situation is different - and your ability to recognize and analyze the 2-3 key variables that will drive the value of the company can be a huge advantage. And then buy at a cheap price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickenumbers Posted October 13, 2018 Author Share Posted October 13, 2018 If you want a simple DCF type stuff you can build a basic one in like 7 minutes. I'm of the firm belief that models should be flexible because the world is complicated and models should reflect that. Something where u plug some numbers in and spits out an answer won't be that great. Anyway, here's one that I've built when I was in grad school and I've used it on and off since then. It's a Bruce Greenwald type model. Would work better on asset heavy type companies. Have fun with it. RB- Wow. That thing is amazing! Very well done, and I/we appreciate you sharing it. I am going to dive into it. I honestly find this CoBF group to be a huge value add to my thinking and my journey. Of course no group is ever perfect, but what is?! Generally like minded, smart, witty, rational, deep specialists and wide generalists [polymaths]. You CoBF folks are my TRIBE! Thanks RB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 You're welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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