TwoCitiesCapital Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Is it Fairfax? Given that you asked a so similar question in a Fairfax related thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffsreng Posted March 14, 2020 Author Share Posted March 14, 2020 No. I'm studying hard on Pier 1 Imports. There's my clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Why ask the question if you're unwilling to provide information to answer it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffsreng Posted March 14, 2020 Author Share Posted March 14, 2020 I will once I exist my position. I will show you the statement as well. I want to know if anyone in history that you know would go short on one position only... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigarbutt Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I will once I exist my position. I will show you the statement as well. I want to know if anyone in history that you know would go short on one position only... Is the company you're shorting characterized by the following: Last December, the CEO (and other executives) was selling shares in part to fund a marital dissolution and since then the share price is down 50%? "I will once I exist my position." Was the bolded part a Freudian slip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieV Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I myself would not go all-in on one company, either long or short. It would be an extremely stupid thing for me to do, as I have proven I can certainly be wrong. I'm reminded of the Buffett quote on leverage: "“If you're smart you don't need it. If you're dumb you got no business using it" If you're a smart enough investor, why do you need to go all-in on one position? Personally, I've got no business going all in on one position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tede02 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 At this stage, my answer is probably not. I would probably put upwards of 25% in one idea if I had ultra high confidence. But there's too much randomness in the world. You might be right on something and then a one-off event like the coronovirus or 9/11 hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTEJD1997 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Why limit yourself to just one company, one position? I am simply overwhelmed with ideas & opportunities. There are things that were too expensive for years & Years & YEARS that I am able to buy. Good, well run, well capitalized, solid companies. Why not take a position in 3-4-5 or 8-9-10 of them? Go down the quality chain and there is some stuff that is simply incredible as to it's valuation. Companies that are making TONS of money, but might have a bit more debt than prudent. Figure out which ones have structured debt properly and take a flyer? If I'm right, looking at 5X returns 2-3 years from now? So why limit yourself to just one position? build your own portfolio, if you are good, you'll be right much more than you are wrong, AND the positions you are right on will provide YEARS of excellent returns for the portfolio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahleyp Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 I don't believe Buffett ever put all of his net worth into one single company. I guess you could say Berkshire but at least he ran that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orchard Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 I will once I make money or go broke 8) Buffett and Munger never disclose their position real-time. They also don't make a post with your title on a message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffsreng Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 You want to think differently and independently. Don't follow the herd into usual portfolio management theory, kelly formula or especially cloning others. My risk/reward is better with my one BIG position. I want to see if others have the same thinking. When there is chaos, there is BIG opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepupil Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 hahahah you own big lots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffsreng Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 Nope. Think bigger. I'm gunning for 1000X return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamecock-YT Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 waiting for some more bailout warrants to go all in on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I don't know what the name of this strategy is... if anyone knows a name for it that's all I'm after. Hypothetical trading behavior as follows: You begin with enough cash to buy the common without margin, but instead you expect volatility and don't care about potentially losing $5.50 per share between now and 2022. So you begin by purchasing enough LEAPS calls to represent the notional value of the amount of common you could otherwise purchase with your remaining cash. You keep doing that every time the stock drops $10. WFC at $50. Pay $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps. WFC at $40. Pay another $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps. WFC at $30. Pay another $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps WFC at $20. Pay another $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps WFC at $10. Pay another $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps etc.. etc... You just keep accumulating calls. 2022 is on the other side of an estimated timeline for a vaccine to be widely available (12-18 months) Jokes aside, is there a name for this kind of a trading strategy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysdrawing Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I don't know what the name of this strategy is... if anyone knows a name for it that's all I'm after. Hypothetical trading behavior as follows: You begin with enough cash to buy the common without margin, but instead you expect volatility and don't care about potentially losing $5.50 per share between now and 2022. So you begin by purchasing enough LEAPS calls to represent the notional value of the amount of common you could otherwise purchase with your remaining cash. You keep doing that every time the stock drops $10. WFC at $50. Pay $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps. WFC at $40. Pay another $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps. WFC at $30. Pay another $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps WFC at $20. Pay another $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps WFC at $10. Pay another $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps etc.. etc... You just keep accumulating calls. 2022 is on the other side of an estimated timeline for a vaccine to be widely available (12-18 months) Jokes aside, is there a name for this kind of a trading strategy? Bagholding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I don't know what the name of this strategy is... if anyone knows a name for it that's all I'm after. Hypothetical trading behavior as follows: You begin with enough cash to buy the common without margin, but instead you expect volatility and don't care about potentially losing $5.50 per share between now and 2022. So you begin by purchasing enough LEAPS calls to represent the notional value of the amount of common you could otherwise purchase with your remaining cash. You keep doing that every time the stock drops $10. WFC at $50. Pay $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps. WFC at $40. Pay another $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps. WFC at $30. Pay another $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps WFC at $20. Pay another $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps WFC at $10. Pay another $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps etc.. etc... You just keep accumulating calls. 2022 is on the other side of an estimated timeline for a vaccine to be widely available (12-18 months) Jokes aside, is there a name for this kind of a trading strategy? Bagholding? Have they put you on a respirator yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysdrawing Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I don't know what the name of this strategy is... if anyone knows a name for it that's all I'm after. Hypothetical trading behavior as follows: You begin with enough cash to buy the common without margin, but instead you expect volatility and don't care about potentially losing $5.50 per share between now and 2022. So you begin by purchasing enough LEAPS calls to represent the notional value of the amount of common you could otherwise purchase with your remaining cash. You keep doing that every time the stock drops $10. WFC at $50. Pay $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps. WFC at $40. Pay another $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps. WFC at $30. Pay another $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps WFC at $20. Pay another $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps WFC at $10. Pay another $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps etc.. etc... You just keep accumulating calls. 2022 is on the other side of an estimated timeline for a vaccine to be widely available (12-18 months) Jokes aside, is there a name for this kind of a trading strategy? Bagholding? Have they put you on a respirator yet? Got your fill of tangible book equity bank stocks before a depression? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoch01 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 i like the sentiment on this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahleyp Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 i like the sentiment on this thread I haven't seen you on here in forever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcliu Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Great depression coming. Human population wiped out. Banks bankrupt. Stocks go to 0. Followed by nuclear war. Money is worthless. Long gold, bunker, food. Maybe some weapons as hedge for zombies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoch01 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 i like the sentiment on this thread I haven't seen you on here in forever! hi paul, happy to be back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoch01 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Great depression coming. Human population wiped out. Banks bankrupt. Stocks go to 0. Followed by nuclear war. Money is worthless. Long gold, bunker, food. Maybe some weapons as hedge for zombies. please be kind and swab your gold coins with sanitizer before you use them at the market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castanza Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Great depression coming. Human population wiped out. Banks bankrupt. Stocks go to 0. Followed by nuclear war. Money is worthless. Long gold, bunker, food. Maybe some weapons as hedge for zombies. I did pickup some ammo (not for this purpose) Saturday. The store was unbelievable packed. You had everyone there from the preppers wearing WWI style gas masks to the "show me where the bullets go" former anti-gun guy. There are a lot of irrational people out there (see Samsclub wine bottle stabbing). I'd recommend avoiding the masses simply because of the crazies running around. I hope you all stay safe out there. ______________________________________ LEAPS are certainly looking interesting, but I have a hard time believing we are anywhere near the bottom. IV is so high right now on many equities you'd likely be losing money even if your position was itm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I don't know what the name of this strategy is... if anyone knows a name for it that's all I'm after. Hypothetical trading behavior as follows: You begin with enough cash to buy the common without margin, but instead you expect volatility and don't care about potentially losing $5.50 per share between now and 2022. So you begin by purchasing enough LEAPS calls to represent the notional value of the amount of common you could otherwise purchase with your remaining cash. You keep doing that every time the stock drops $10. WFC at $50. Pay $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps. WFC at $40. Pay another $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps. WFC at $30. Pay another $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps WFC at $20. Pay another $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps WFC at $10. Pay another $5.50 for 2022 at-the-money leaps etc.. etc... You just keep accumulating calls. 2022 is on the other side of an estimated timeline for a vaccine to be widely available (12-18 months) Jokes aside, is there a name for this kind of a trading strategy? Bagholding? Have they put you on a respirator yet? Got your fill of tangible book equity bank stocks before a depression? Ahh. What we've got here is a gloater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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