scorpioncapital Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Is there an index or etf of over leveraged bad businesses one can buy (or perhaps short). Or even a junk bond fund ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
given2invest Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Is there an index or etf of over leveraged bad businesses one can buy (or perhaps short). Or even a junk bond fund ? HYG is the junk bond fund ETF. I would not short that as on Friday the Fed literally said they were going to start buying it. Crazy times we live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigarbutt Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Yes HYG is interesting. I had built a position in WYDE (the mirror image of HYG) but WYDE was liquidated last August because of insufficient investor interest. :( The last time I checked, high yield oil and gas made 11% of HYG. But then again, it looks like banks are getting ready to take over the oil and gas industry and the Fed set up an SPV (this is not a joke) funded by the Treasury (this is not a joke) that will buy everything that looks distressed. How do you deal with that? It is the best of times, it is the worst of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpioncapital Posted April 12, 2020 Author Share Posted April 12, 2020 So this HYG is supposed to go down over time to zero? Or is it structured to go up when companies stocks do badly? It actually says "Shares iBoxx $ High Yid Corp Bond" so I guess this is junk bonds etf. I was thinking the same thing but for the equity portion. I'm actually looking for something that will do badly, as a hedge. But maybe this is the wrong way to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaegi2011 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 I think it's worth warranting that the Fed is willing to buy sub-IG bonds only if the issuer was still IG as of 3/24/2020. E.g., Ford falls into that camp, but not a lot of other large names do (e.g., KHC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpioncapital Posted May 5, 2020 Author Share Posted May 5, 2020 Does anyone know an inverse etf of poor quality stocks, or at least ones with very high capex requirements and very commodified stocks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 XOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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