SharperDingaan Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) The marketing folks would like us to believe that ESG is a factor in a company's share price - perform well on the ESG front, and your shares should trade at a premium to your peers. Of course, as currently portrayed - it is utter rubbish! As many an oil sands CFO will gleefully tell you ..... Consider Suncor (SU) and Cenovus Energy (CVE) - top 3 Allberta oil sands producers. SU mines its deposits, whereas CVE uses SAGD with a materially much lower carbon footprint. The output receives the same price, whether it comes from SU or CVE. All else equal, if the cost/bbl for SU and CVE were the same, their profit/bbl would be identical. Point? Zero recognition for the lower carbon footprint, and zero incentive to reduce it. There is no value add until the producer has to pay for polluting. SU would have to buy carbon credits, reducing its net carbon footprint, and lowering its profit/bbl. CVE would sell carbon credits, raising its net carbon footprint, and raising its profit/bbl. Process stops when the 'carbon adjusted' cost/bbl of both companies is about the same, but the share price of SU falls and the share price of CVE rises. Point? Carbon tax is the investors friend, NOT his/her enemy. Look for places where carbon tax is both low, and being strongly resisted. In those places, look at those with low carbon production, and those with high carbon production likely to strand. It's hard to 'resist', when for most participants - the costs of paying for pollution, are lower than the costs of ongoing political lobbying You could do very well! SD Edited May 26, 2021 by SharperDingaan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizaro86 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Related to this topic: I've always been a SAGD guy, so I know an unreasonably large amount about that process. But very little about mining. What I don't understand is WHY the miners have such high greenhouse gas emissions? SAGD requires burning gas to heat water to make steam, and the giant steam generators produce a lot of CO2. Where are the emissions at the mines? Tailpipe emissions from their giant equipment? Or is it somewhere in the process part of the operation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharperDingaan Posted May 26, 2021 Author Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) Ultimately the sand has to be heated up to get the oil out, and it is the CO2 from the fuel burnt. And all over and above the mining emmissions themselves. Nightmare. SU also has the optics problem of strip mining/dead wildlife everywhere, Shell's recent court order to reduce emmissions 40%, and the real possibility of stranded assets. With SAGD, maybe the ground rises 40ft when it heats up, melting the snow cover in winter. In the near term, SU either gets into carbon capture in a big way, buys a lot of carbon credits, or buys in a lot of conventional production. Shuts in some oil sand production and replaces with conventional production to average down the carbon footprint. Really means that the industry needs to fuel with hydogen vs gas, and quickly. SD Edited May 26, 2021 by SharperDingaan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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