xazp Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 BAC's overseas presence is primarily for big companies (not for consumers). They have a presence in many big cities, though not on the scale of a Citigroup for example. Is the lack of big oversea presence for BAC a huge minus for these corp related business? As far as I know 100% of large American corporations do business with one of the four mega-banks. Have you ever gotten a paycheck from "Apple bank"? Super-large companies need super-large banks. A billion dollar cash balance needs to be stored with a bank that can easily absorb that. Apple can't store their cash wad with a thousand community banks, no matter how many free toasters Do you really need to do business with a Megabank if you have a multi-billion$ balance sheet? You can basically run your own treasury department, issue commercial paper (assuming the company has investment grade credit), do your own cash management. You may need help placing bonds, but you don't need your cash managment running through a bank - at this size, I think they can do it themselves. Derivatives alone make megabanks a necessity for large companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharperDingaan Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Agreed you need 4-5 interstate banks (BAC, WF, etc.) simply for ATM distribution, & to clear US overnight corporate flows. Those banks don't need to do anything more than plain vanilla FX & interest rate swaps - & then only with their corporate clients. If I want an ugly I go to GS ... because I'm pretty sure that if they flat-line tomorrow, the fed will take over the other side of my otherwise dead swap. But what we do not need .... is swarms of little regional banks. SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mankap Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Eric holder is getting busy with Ferguson,MO and that makes me wonder if we are going to see DOJ settlement this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareastwarriors Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Thomas Montag to Become Sole COO of Bank of America David Darnell, Formerly Bank of America's Co-COO, to Become Vice Chairman http://online.wsj.com/articles/thomas-montag-to-become-sole-coo-of-bank-of-america-1408456736?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareastwarriors Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 In a Bank Settlement, Don’t Forget the Bulldozers http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/17/business/in-a-bank-settlement-dont-forget-the-bulldozers.html?partner=rss&emc=rss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYDemaray Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 $10bn in cash, $7bn consumer relief. To be announced tomorrow: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101923736 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matson125 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Free At Last! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ni-co Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 So this means one last $4-5bn charge in the current quarter according to Sanford Bernstein's estimates (WSJ/Google-Link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareastwarriors Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 So this means one last $4-5bn charge in the current quarter. hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpRaider Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 That's an extra $1 billion in cash. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Hopefully it truly is the light at the end of the tunnel -- and it's not a train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikhil25 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Hopefully it truly is the light at the end of the tunnel -- and it's not a train. Seriously! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsad Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Hopefully it truly is the light at the end of the tunnel -- and it's not a train. That's the biggest one remaining. Almost 90% of that is already reserved for so it isn't costing us too much. The remaining amounts for litigation will be a fraction of that, and I suspect 2015 will be a clean bill of health going forward in terms of legacy liabilities. Took a little longer than we wanted, but it was a shitload of litigation! Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OracleofCarolina Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Yes, I hope this settlement is the last large one. Kind of surprised at this news below, even though I think it is warranted. Countrywide Financial Corp. co-founder Angelo Mozilo hasn’t escaped the wrath of prosecutors for his company’s role in inflating the U.S housing bubble that preceded the financial crisis. To read the entire article, go to http://bloom.bg/XAQiHP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xazp Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 They blew it because it's going to be a civil charge. But being a major contributor to worldwide financial crisis deserves jail time. Yes, I hope this settlement is the last large one. Kind of surprised at this news below, even though I think it is warranted. Countrywide Financial Corp. co-founder Angelo Mozilo hasn’t escaped the wrath of prosecutors for his company’s role in inflating the U.S housing bubble that preceded the financial crisis. To read the entire article, go to http://bloom.bg/XAQiHP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xazp Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 NYT is reporting the exact number is $16.65, and $9.6Bn cash penalty. I suspect we'll see the numbers and hits to pre-and-after tax earnings bright and early tomorrow. Yes, I hope this settlement is the last large one. Kind of surprised at this news below, even though I think it is warranted. Countrywide Financial Corp. co-founder Angelo Mozilo hasn’t escaped the wrath of prosecutors for his company’s role in inflating the U.S housing bubble that preceded the financial crisis. To read the entire article, go to http://bloom.bg/XAQiHP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OracleofCarolina Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Interesting tidbit from NYT In a phone call on July 30 with the bank’s chief executive, Brian T. Moynihan, Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. demanded that the bank raise its offer by the next morning. Otherwise, he explained, the New Jersey prosecutors would file suit. With 10 minutes to spare on July 31, a bank lawyer called the Justice Department with an offer: about $9 billion in cash and $7 billion in soft-dollar payments. The Justice Department accepted, setting in motion weeks of negotiations about the deal’s fine print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbharadwaj Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Official press releases out: http://investor.bankofamerica.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=71595&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1960144 Bank of America Reaches Comprehensive Settlement With U.S. Department of Justice and State Attorneys General to Resolve Mortgage-related Litigations and Investigations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm25 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 BAC has agreed to a record $16.7B comprehensive settlement with the DOJ over its ongoing mortgage related litigation. The settlement allows BAC to resolve the majority of its legacy mortgage issues. The settlement is expected to lower Q3/14 pre-tax earnings by $5.3 billion or $0.43/sh after-tax. The settlement consists of a cash penalty of $9.65 billion and a package of consumer-relief measures valued at $7.0 billion. Shares are up +1.2% on the news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 The cash portion consists of a $5.02 billion civil monetary penalty and $4.63 billion in compensatory remediation payments. Does this mean that "only" $5.02 billion is not tax-deductible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ni-co Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 The cash portion consists of a $5.02 billion civil monetary penalty and $4.63 billion in compensatory remediation payments. Does this mean that "only" $5.02 billion is not tax-deductible? I think so. But who cares? It's $0.43/sh and that's it. Why don't I sense a tiny bit of joy? 1.5% gain for essentially doubling or tripling earnings from now on? Moynihan went out there and said "of the big stuff, that’s really the one that's left out there", and nobody seems to believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 At least the Oct-Dec quarter should be clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareastwarriors Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 niffy graphic http://graphics.wsj.com/documents/legaltab/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary17 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 It's interesting the B warrants went up 7+% today... I don't hold any... but just looking at this from hindsight given a few days ago we all know pretty well a deal is coming -- was it a good idea to buy B warrants then? Was the risk higher a few days ago to be owning B warrants than commons or leaps? granted, a part of the price move today is due to better economic data (existing home sales) - i'm just curious to know what others think... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mankap Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 I like the quote from Dick Bove. "Rafferty Capital Markets analyst Richard Bove, in a phone interview, said: “The shareholders are expected to pay for something they never did, while the people who committed the crimes suffer nothing, while the people harmed get nothing." The whole exercise to get in front of TV and say that banks have been punished and Govt got compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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