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Does Li Lu have to file when he reduces his stake? Or would we only find out when BYD issues a new annual report and publishes a lower sharecount for him?

 

you can the share holder filing on hk stock exchange website

Yes, i think he has to file. And he increased last time after the crash.

 

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Very nice case study paper.  Thanks for sharing the link, redhots!

 

BTW: Munger_Disciple, truer words could not have been better said....

 

It is clear from the report that some of BYD's wounds were self-inflicted, but I also think the report shows that the US especially in states like California has become anti-business and uncompetitive with the rest of the world in terms of opening new factories.
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It is clear from the report that some of BYD's wounds were self-inflicted, but I also think the report shows that the US especially in states like California has become anti-business and uncompetitive with the rest of the world in terms of opening new factories.

 

Let me see: so the fact that California provided incentives and tried to attract BYD is now considered as "anti-business" and uncompetitive.

 

Boggles the mind.

 

What are you going to consider "pro-business" and competitive? Allowing BYD to pay $1.5 per hour to workers in yuan?

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Thanks for the nice words brker_guy.

 

Here is an article about CA (and NY):

 

http://www.inc.com/maeghan-ouimet/california-and-new-york-not-business-friendly.html

 

Quote from then Intel CEO (Intel's world-wide HQ by the way is in CA):

 

"We're so close to screwing it up, it's pathetic..." Otellini said. "I worry that we have to hit the abyss before we can fix things, and I worry that the abyss will be more like Greece."

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As of today Byd has a market cap of 88.39B HKD or $11,36B USD. Last years earnings in todays (depreciated) currency were $66M, resulting in a P/E = 172.

 

Back in October 2015 the company forecasted a 435%-481% profit increase as oppose 2014. Since then they have revised their profit forecast upward to a 518%-557% increase. That is a profit of 2,68-2,850B Yuan, which translates to $410-430 million USD.

 

Byd is thus selling at TTM P/E = 26,4-27,7.

 

”During the fourth quarter of 2015, the domestic new energy vehicles industry experienced explosive growth, which also moved the Group’s electric vehicles segment into undersupply. Although the Company’s new energy vehicles production is running at full capacity, it still cannot meet the enormous demand of the new energy vehicles market.”

http://www.hkexnews.hk/listedco/listconews/SEHK/2016/0107/LTN201601071305.pdf

 

Interview with Wang Chuanfu: http://evobsession.com/interview-with/

­Wang Chuanfu expects to double electric car sales every year for the next 3 years. From 60.000 in 2015 to 480.000 in 2018.

 

Longtime investor Li Lu increased his stake in BYD slightly (3,4%) last year when the price fell substantially. During these last weeks/months Li Lu added an additional 31% to his stake (for prices that are higher then Byd is selling for at the moment).

http://sdinotice.hkex.com.hk/di/NSForm2.aspx?fn=290999&lang=EN&dia=Y

 

Seems like Byd is finally starting to gain traction with their electric vehicles. Pretty interesting.

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BYD won a proposal to create battery-electric drayage trucks for California Ports.  (T9)

http://insideevs.com/california-to-award-23-6-million-for-zero-emission-trucks-at-seaports/

 

I like that BYD is expanding into more vehicles and actually winning work in the US.  All of the data for the trucks will be available to partners.  The trucks will be used alongside diesel trucks by the same operators.  This project will also prove that the long-term economics of the vehicles are sound.  (higher upfront with monthly savings).  Lastly, the T9 platform uses the same cab, chassis, and powertrain for other trucks... so will hopefully open up those markets as well.  (regional food, beverage, goods delivery, refuse trucks, and concrete mixers)  This is a good first step to open up the market for these kinds of vehicles.

 

I found the proposal on the www.arb.ca.gov site.  (see attached)  Here are some interesting points.

  • The proposal was for 20 trucks (but flexible).. not sure how many they won
  • They are the first OEM that will manufacture every major electric propulsion component
  • They are doing a better job highlighting the benefits of the iron phosphate battery
  • They are integrating with I/O controls for the monitoring system
  • Trucks will cost $300,000
  • Chargers will cost $2,500 (40kW) to $30,000 (200kW)
  • They estimate $13,700 in annual savings vs. diesel yard trucks
  • It takes 6 months for BYD to deliver  (they took 6 months for 20 street sweeping vehicles in Beijing)
  • Companies like Coca-Cola, Sysco, and UPS have already expressed interest in electric Class 8 trucks for regional deliveries
  • If BYD is able to meet its sales and production targets.... price will reduce from $300,000 to $150,000 in 5 years!

 

I just noticed a new T9 fact sheet with some upgrades.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/os1ya5lhvzpqpmg/BYD_T9%20Battery%20Electric%20Class%208%20Truck.pdf?dl=0

  • 86 mile range is now 100+
  • 2 feet shorter and 1 foot wider
  • top speed from 56mph to 60
  • charging time from 3.5 hrs to 2.5

 

sfpp-016.pdf

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BYD electric forklift ECB18C triumphs at CeMAT

http://mhwmagazine.co.uk/ifoy-test-winner-byd-electric-forklift-ecb18c-triumphs-at-cemat.html

http://mhwmagazine.co.uk/ifoy-awards-2016-byd-ecb18c-voted-worlds-best-counter-balanced-truck-of-the-year.html

 

  • Voted World´s best Counter Balanced Truck of the Year
  • The first time a Chinese made-vehicle has been crowned the world’s best forklift truck of the year.
  • Operating cost savings of up to 40%
  • No other applied technology in the materials handling/logistics processes has such a comparable enormous savings potential.
  • Its iron phosphate battery can be recharged extremely fast, as often as needed and without memory effect, which means it can handle three-shift duty without any problem

 

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Wang Chuanfu: BYD COMPANY to Develop Electric Light Rail Transit in Coming 5 Yrs

 

At the shareholder's meeting today, BYD COMPANY chairman Wang Chuanfu announced the new business vision for the coming 5 years - to develop urban electric light rail transit in tier-2, 3 and 4 cities, as CNSTOCKS.COM reported. BYD estimated the operating revenue this year will exceed RMB100 billion.

 

It is learnt that the cost of electric light rail transit is only one sixth of a metro system. BYD has officially set up a research institute on light rail transit.

 

 

http://www.aastocks.com/en/stocks/news/aafn-news/NOW.738371/1

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BYD won another California grant for Electric Trucks.

 

The fact that it is being deployed with the fleets servicing a Class 1 railroad makes it a potentially very high impact case study” for use of zero emission vehicles in the freight movement system, he said.

 

California Grant Provides $9.1 Million for 27 BYD Electric Trucks

https://www.trucks.com/2016/06/10/california-grant-provides-9-1-million-27-byd-electric-trucks/

 

 

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BYD  has partnered with the Beijing Environmental Sanitation Engineering Group Ltd. to launch a pure electric sanitation truck lineup – featuring a total of 26 different models

 

The 26 models of pure electric trucks – with load capacities ranging from 1 ton to 32 tons – will be used as sweeping, garbage and sprinkling trucks, carrying out multiple tasks, such as sweeping, collecting, compressing and transporting waste, as well as refrigerated transportation for hazardous waste.

 

http://ngtnews.com/byd-beijing-environmental-group-to-launch-electric-sanitation-truck-lineup/

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A bit more detail on the factory expansion in CA and some of the additional trucks they are working on.  The UPS truck looks great.

 

Electric Truck and Bus Maker BYD on a Roll After Bumpy Start

https://www.trucks.com/2017/02/06/electric-truck-bus-byd/

 

BYD making all kinds of electric vehicles across the globe for more than a decade isn't anything remotely close to the coming mind blowing innovation from Musk, soon to unfold.

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BYD Company (01211) said its preliminary net profit attributable to shareholders for the year 2016 rose 78.63% year-on-year to Rmb5,044 million.

 

Basic earnings per share were Rmb1.87.

 

Total operating revenue amounted to Rmb103,975 million, an increase of 29.95% from a year earlier.

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PE = 21,43

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