stahleyp Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Just because I get emotional doesn't mean I act on the emotions. why are you so emotional about rimm? what's the back story? I'm like a teenager. 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 it doesn't mean anything. :) This is somewhat of a contrast to your prior statement of: "it's not hard to figure out if you're an old fogie". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rimm_never_sleeps Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 it doesn't mean anything. :) This is somewhat of a contrast to your prior statement of: "it's not hard to figure out if you're an old fogie". if you are an old fogie you can figure out the source, or inspiration of the name. but in the end it has no particular meaning, good or bad. nor does a it imply a malevolent context concerning my favorite company. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraven Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 it doesn't mean anything. :) This is somewhat of a contrast to your prior statement of: "it's not hard to figure out if you're an old fogie". if you are an old fogie you can figure out the source, or inspiration of the name. but in the end it has no particular meaning, good or bad. nor does a it imply a malevolent context concerning my favorite company. :) I sense a Neil Young fan in our midst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 it doesn't mean anything. :) This is somewhat of a contrast to your prior statement of: "it's not hard to figure out if you're an old fogie". if you are an old fogie you can figure out the source, or inspiration of the name. but in the end it has no particular meaning, good or bad. nor does a it imply a malevolent context concerning my favorite company. :) I sense a Neil Young fan in our midst. The only time I've seen Neil Young in person was at the Cow Palace -- he was playing as part of Bill Graham's Earthquake Benefit (the quake was in October '89 so it has been a while). I remember thinking he looked like an aging dinosaur dragged out of retirement. This was a heck of a long time ago, I'm surprised he is still playing based on my prior assessment :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rimm_never_sleeps Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I sense a Neil Young fan in our midst. and Dylan. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraven Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 it doesn't mean anything. :) This is somewhat of a contrast to your prior statement of: "it's not hard to figure out if you're an old fogie". if you are an old fogie you can figure out the source, or inspiration of the name. but in the end it has no particular meaning, good or bad. nor does a it imply a malevolent context concerning my favorite company. :) I sense a Neil Young fan in our midst. The only time I've seen Neil Young in person was at the Cow Palace -- he was playing as part of Bill Graham's Earthquake Benefit. I remember thinking he looked like an aging dinosaur dragged out of retirement. This was a heck of a long time ago, I'm surprised he is still playing based on my prior assessment :) Neil Young has been in the same class as Mick Jagger and Keith Richards in the beauty department for quite a long time. They could all be brothers or something. I have to say though after Cinammon Girl, Ohio and perhaps Hey Hey My My, I haven't seen anything I like in him for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rimm_never_sleeps Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 The only time I've seen Neil Young in person was at the Cow Palace -- he was playing as part of Bill Graham's Earthquake Benefit (the quake was in October '89 so it has been a while). I remember thinking he looked like an aging dinosaur dragged out of retirement. This was a heck of a long time ago, I'm surprised he is still playing based on my prior assessment :) sounds like a great show. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysinvert Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Saw Neil Young in London a few years ago. I'd probably hold that as he best concert I've ever been to - his voice just as good as 40 years ago. After nailing all the ballads he strapped on the electric guitar and rocked the fuck out of the place. My brother who went with me was of the same opinion fwiw. And he was never really a looker was he? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onyx1 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 it doesn't mean anything. :) This is somewhat of a contrast to your prior statement of: "it's not hard to figure out if you're an old fogie". if you are an old fogie you can figure out the source, or inspiration of the name. but in the end it has no particular meaning, good or bad. nor does a it imply a malevolent context concerning my favorite company. :) I sense a Neil Young fan in our midst. The only time I've seen Neil Young in person was at the Cow Palace -- he was playing as part of Bill Graham's Earthquake Benefit. I remember thinking he looked like an aging dinosaur dragged out of retirement. This was a heck of a long time ago, I'm surprised he is still playing based on my prior assessment :) Neil Young has been in the same class as Mick Jagger and Keith Richards in the beauty department for quite a long time. They could all be brothers or something. I have to say though after Cinammon Girl, Ohio and perhaps Hey Hey My My, I haven't seen anything I like in him for years. Same, but then when I saw his tribute to Conan O'Brien on the last Tonight Show I remembered why I liked him years ago. http://vimeo.com/8947955 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uccmal Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I saw him 6 times in the mid 80s to early 90s, and then again with CSNY in 2002. Always a fan ,but agree that his best music was from the 1970s. His song catalogue is hundreds long. How much can one person write thats original? He still destroys anyone with the courage to go on stage with him. Youtube has introduced massive amounts of old and new concert footage. He will go down in history as one of the best songwriters, maybe not so much as a good guitarist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest valueInv Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I think investors have to differentiate between a growing dominant brand that is fairly valued, and a stagnant (even dying brand) but trading at less than liquidation value of assets. Yacktman isn't betting that RIM is going to displace the iPhone. He's just betting there is enough life left in the product and brand, where the valuation justifies the possible risk/reward. Cheers! He seems to understand the risks he is taking: http://www.gurufocus.com/news/199660/rimm-soars-on-goldman-sachs-upgrade-and-blackberry-10-who-bought-in-the-third-quarter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rimm_never_sleeps Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 one way to mitigate risk. have a "tiny" position in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txlaw Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57556955-76/nest-ceo-fadell-internet-of-things-is-a-decade-away/ It will take 10 years before the "Internet of things" catches on widely, said Nest Labs Chief Executive Tony Fadell, whose smart-thermostat startup embodies the technology. "People think there's this Internet of all kinds of crazy devices that are going to talk to each other. It's going to take some time," Fadell said at the LeWeb show here. "Give it five or eight years and then you'll see machines talking to machines. Then it'll be commonplace in 10 years or so." The Internet of things is the idea that networked computing will spread far beyond today's computers and smartphones to things like refrigerators, light bulbs, traffic lights, and really just about anything. It's a real phenomenon, but it's not clear yet how far it will extend beyond straightforward devices like cars to sci-fi gadgetry like bloodstream nanobots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmichaud Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Interesting articles by Eric Jackson: http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericjackson/2012/11/26/why-i-a-former-short-just-bought-blackberrys-stock/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericjackson/2012/12/04/what-the-bears-are-missing-about-research-in-motion/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txlaw Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Interesting articles by Eric Jackson: http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericjackson/2012/11/26/why-i-a-former-short-just-bought-blackberrys-stock/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericjackson/2012/12/04/what-the-bears-are-missing-about-research-in-motion/ Interesting. Have you read those Scotia Capital reports? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rimm_never_sleeps Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 it doesn't make sense. bb10 is a high end phone os. how are 70% of the subscriber base going to update to it when many of them are using low end phones in Indonesia and Pakistan and don't have data plans? also, jackson is naive about bb10. it is not going to be offered with the same subscriber plan that current bbs have. in fact bb10 breaks the subscriber model that rimm has enjoyed up through bb7. he also casually dismisses Nokia/msft in one sentence. but there is evidence mounting that the new nok phones are selling. and win phone has over a 2 year lead on bb10 in market and ecosystem development. i would say that rimm needs to actually start producing + ebitda before it can earn $4 a share. Scotia is basically a perma bull on rimm. cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmichaud Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Interesting articles by Eric Jackson: http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericjackson/2012/11/26/why-i-a-former-short-just-bought-blackberrys-stock/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericjackson/2012/12/04/what-the-bears-are-missing-about-research-in-motion/ Interesting. Have you read those Scotia Capital reports? Negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rimm_never_sleeps Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Scotia Capital 09-06-2011 history lesson. http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2011/09/06/rim-samsung-troubles-already-helping-os-7-says-scotia/ Papageorgiou raised his estimate for this year to $22.2 billion in revenue and $5.44 in EPS, up from a prior $21.2 billion and $5.30 per share. For next year, he now sees $32.62 billion in revenue and $7.44 per share in EPS, up from a prior $30.65 billion and $7.01 per share Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rimm_never_sleeps Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I'm like a teenager. 8) rimm bb10 devices to "trickle" out next year. Cheers! RIMM: No QWERTY BB10 Device Until June, Analyst Says from Tech Musings by Eric Savitz If you’re waiting for new devices to spark a rebound in Research In Motion‘s financial performance, you’re going to have to wait. And wait. RIM has said it will unveil its first BlackBerry 10-based devices on January 30. But Boston-based research firm Detwiler Fenton asserted in a research note this morning that the first touch-screen BB10 phone won’t appear in the U.S. until March – and that the QWERTY keyboard version won’t debut until June. “RIM’s stock has been on a tear recently thanks to a number of upgrades and optimism surrounding its upcoming BB10 platform,” the firm writes in a note to clients. “However, as we dig a little deeper, there appears to be a few issues that could set up for some disappointing numbers in the 2013 first half.” Detwiler asserts that they “understand” that the QWERTY deice won’t debut until June. AT&T and T-Mobile are not expected to launch BB10 devices until March, the firm says. Verizon and Sprint are targeting a May debut, the repot contends. “Therefore, it is possible RIMM’s February quarter may only see a very small number of BB10 sales with the May quarter also coming in light due to limited QWERTY keyboard shipments and limited shipments to Sprint and Verizon,” Detwiler writers. “It’s our opinion RIM will ship approximately 400,000 BB10 units in the February quarter and 2.2 million to 2.5 million units in the May quarter. While this is clearly a North American / developed market view, we think this is the right way to look at the 2013 first half because the initial BB10 handsets are higher end and not targeted for emerging markets.” Detwiler says the reasons for the delayed QWERTY launch are not clear, but that it will be “a serious problem for RIMM in its efforts to stop the bleeding and stabilize the business…we simply don’t see much of an upgrade cycle for RIMM from its legacy QWERTY devices to full touch screen devices.” The research firm adds that they are skeptical about how much success RIMM will have in the consumer sector given competitive threats from Samsung, Apple and Microsoft – a lack of interest from developers. “Our checks with major application developers indicate there is limited interest in the platform with it ranking 4th in priority among the major operating systems,” Detwiler contends. RIMM is unchanged at $11.94. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahleyp Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 cwericb, I can't take credit for it. Someone else posted about it previously. rimm, researching and discussing an idea does not equate to buying. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smazz Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 From Street.COM today http://www.thestreet.com/story/11788911/1/rim-poll-will-you-buy-a-blackberry-10-device.html RIM launches its much-delayed BlackBerry 10 operating system on Jan.30, 2013. Will you go out and buy a BlackBerry 10 device? http://flisti.com/41653 Yes – I can’t wait to get my hands on one. 48921 Votes 99% Maybe – but I want more technical details and pricing information. 392 Votes 1% No. 449 Votes 1% Total number of people voted: 49607 This beats the dumb poll of the drunk lady on the bar stool doesnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palantir Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-VR370_TAT_G_20121213135641.jpg These guys look awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txlaw Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I hesitate to post the following article because I don't like to post every article that is positive towards RIM, but given that much was made of ICE dropping RIM, it probably makes sense to share that ICE will at least give BB10 a shot: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/13/us-rim-shares-idUSBRE8BB1TQ20121213 We'll see if the product can keep ICE on board. Hopefully, other agencies and companies will also give BB10 a shot by testing out the products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFRCanuk Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 $13.51 today. If you bought in the late summer/early fall before Nov/Dec 2012 Congrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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