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Thanks for the reply.  My feeling was that if they define 1B+, finish the scoping study, and secure off-take agreements on favorable terms the stock could be worth more than the royalty.  But, I guess it doesnt really matter since the market is valuing the royalty at 0 anyway.  The fact that they own both definitely puts them in a favorable position.  I think this is the stock I feel most comfortable with in my portfolio in terms of risk/reward.  I added these last couple of days as well. 

 

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RGLD- hit another 52 week high today...It is nice to see that even in this environment Altius' cash and marketable securities is not only holding tough but growing...it would be a very nice suprise to see some of the other gold holdings they have get some notice...including the potential royalty holdings.

 

 

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cwericb,

 

Thank you for the article it was a great read. I would recommend Peter Munk's autobiography. I t is a tough read because his business history is something else. Interesting that he said he was anti gold bug and that is how he built his business! If you look at his deals in the 80's, they were historic. He sold futures right at the top and avoided the fall out of the 20 year decline in the gold price. I will be looking for a similar pattern this time around...when smart money starts hedging the gold price  into the future that is. Barrick bought out their hedges a couple of years ago for about $3 billion. So he is betting long on gold for now.

 

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I don't understand all the technical stuff, but it seems like good news just based on this:

 

"The positive metallurgical results are another significant step in bringing the Kami Project into operation," says Brian Penney, Chief Operating Officer of Alderon. "The concentrate particle size distribution indicated by the testwork demonstrates that magnetic separation will provide a concentrate acceptable for market demands. The concentrate is expected to have very low deleterious elements with phosphorous being less than 0.01% and alumina at only 0.20%. Manganese is within acceptable range at 0.75%, which will allow for the broadest possible market for the Kami product as it is well below the critical 1% cut-off."
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Great news...they have said in the past that they thought the Voisey Bay nickel belt extended further...and they talk about some of this with regards to their royalty in the area which covers a lot more than the current reserve estimates for the mine.

 

Interesting that they are expanding iron ore activities with Cliffs as well...many analysts have speculated that Cliffs is a potential buyer of Alderon as it is next door to their newly acquired Thomson Consolidated. It would make more sense to buy Altius outright and therefore gain control of Alderon for basically free. I do not know if they are that smart at Cliffs...but that is what I would do...keeping Dalton as a big part of the Cliffs organization. They would be stealing it even at a 50% to 60% premium today.

 

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Dazel thanks for the update.

 

Listen, you gotta stay quiet, you re going to give CLiff or other s ideas, I am just getting into ALS-I was hoping for more than 50% gain over the long term.

 

Closed at $10. ($284 million mkt cap= no debt + $200 m in cash/securities + Alderon/all royalties)

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Dazel thanks for the update.

 

Listen, you gotta stay quiet, you re going to give CLiff or other s ideas, I am just getting into ALS-I was hoping for more than 50% gain over the long term.

 

Closed at $10. ($284 million mkt cap= no debt + $200 m in cash/securities + Alderon/all royalties)

 

 

Only 50% gain over the long term?  If so, I will sell ALS right away.

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Dazel thanks for the update.

 

Listen, you gotta stay quiet, you re going to give CLiff or other s ideas, I am just getting into ALS-I was hoping for more than 50% gain over the long term.

 

Closed at $10. ($284 million mkt cap= no debt + $200 m in cash/securities + Alderon/all royalties)

 

 

Only 50% gain over the long term?  If so, I will sell ALS right away.

 

He said stealing  ;D

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the fed is saying buy "real assets".....for 2 years or you will 0 return...

 

good spot to hide here at Altius.

 

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I was wondering if Dazel or any of the other Altius fans had taken a look at Cliffs (CLF)? After a quick glance, they seem fairly cheap, though they are much bigger than Altius (and thus probably more efficiently priced) and have more capex exposure because of their model.

 

Just trying to learn more about them, not necessarily thinking of buying some.. Curious to know what others who've had a look think. Thanks.

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We love Cliff's....enough to swap our Altius shares for theirs at a good enough premium! Cliffs was Peter Cundill's greatest investment...he bought and 1980's sold out and bought again after the 1987 crash.

 

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