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Seems like demand for the watch is low. I hardly heard about it (people aren't talking about it or buying it around me), and it doesn't seem like Apple is doing a great job marketing it.

 

 

That said, you still can't even buy it in Apple Stores due to supply issues, so it's tough to gauge interest on it.

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Seems like demand for the watch is low. I hardly heard about it (people aren't talking about it or buying it around me), and it doesn't seem like Apple is doing a great job marketing it.

 

 

That said, you still can't even buy it in Apple Stores due to supply issues, so it's tough to gauge interest on it.

 

What's the demand for Samsung watches? I've never seen anyone with one of their watches either.

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Most people who are interested haven't even had a chance to see the Watch in person and it has been backordered since 8 minutes after it launched in the middle of the night... Trying to proxy-gauge demand for a new product category that isn't available doesn't tell us much IMO.

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Not sure. The only watch-type product that seems to have traction (at least in my neck of the woods) is Fitbit, but while some versions of them do function as a watch, it's really a different category.

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Most people who are interested haven't even had a chance to see the Watch in person and it has been backordered since 8 minutes after it launched in the middle of the night... Trying to proxy-gauge demand for a new product category that isn't available doesn't tell us much IMO.

 

why not look at the sales of samsung watches?

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Most people who are interested haven't even had a chance to see the Watch in person and it has been backordered since 8 minutes after it launched in the middle of the night... Trying to proxy-gauge demand for a new product category that isn't available doesn't tell us much IMO.

 

why not look at the sales of samsung watches?

 

I don't think they're useful.

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Most people who are interested haven't even had a chance to see the Watch in person and it has been backordered since 8 minutes after it launched in the middle of the night... Trying to proxy-gauge demand for a new product category that isn't available doesn't tell us much IMO.

 

why not look at the sales of samsung watches?

 

That would be like looking at Blackberry sales in 2007 to gauge how the iPhone was going to sell. They are entirely different products.

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Some might be concerned by the theory that this means Ive will retire soon, but that is only really a big negative if you believe in the magic man theory regarding Apple's success.

 

Apple after Ive will certainly be interesting. I don't actually think this means that he will leave or not one way or the other.

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So....how to Ive's responsibilities change? Sounds like a more puffed up title, maybe somebody is unhappy?

 

If you read the piece, you'll see that this mostly means that most of his managerial tasks will go to the two new people under him, freeing him to spend more time on the design stuff and traveling (partly to help design new flagship Apple stores around the world).

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He was already doing those things. Spend more time on design? From a guy that lives and breathes design? Rather this sounds more like a stepping down of responsibilities.

 

There are only a certain amount of waking hours in a day. If you spend X of those on 'Non-design', you can't spend them on 'Design'. By delegating some of the more managerial stuff to others, he gets more time to think about design.

 

Maybe it means something else, but I think that it could just be what they're saying it is. Ive will no doubt go someday, and Apple is doing the right thing by creating a structure that will make it easier to transition, and by putting a bit more spotlight on the rest of the team (Ive was never alone in this).

 

But Ive is still very young, he eats and breathes design and will probably never stop, and he'll never find another place that has a more design-oriented culture, where he can make a bigger impact on the world, or where he'll get more money. So I don't think he's in a hurry to go anywhere.

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But Ive is still very young, he eats and breathes design and will probably never stop, and he'll never find another place that has a more design-oriented culture, where he can make a bigger impact on the world, or where he'll get more money. So I don't think he's in a hurry to go anywhere.

 

 

He could want to start his own company, or just retire though.

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But Ive is still very young, he eats and breathes design and will probably never stop, and he'll never find another place that has a more design-oriented culture, where he can make a bigger impact on the world, or where he'll get more money. So I don't think he's in a hurry to go anywhere.

 

 

He could want to start his own company, or just retire though.

 

Guys like that don't retire. He has 5,000 patents to his name. He designs the tables at the Apple cafeteria. He'll never stopped until he's forced.

 

Starting his own company is possible, but what's the point? Apple is basically his company the way it's run, and he seems to love his team. Starting his company to do what? Design chairs? It's not like he'd have all the billions of capital and R&D capabilities and top engineers that Apple has if he wanted to do complex products that require hardware/software/services. He'd have to build it all up, and that's the opposite of focusing more on design, which is what he seems to be doing now.

 

Edit: Gruber's take: http://daringfireball.net/2015/05/jony_ive_promotion_chief_design_officer

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Looks like Samsung Galaxy S6 isn't quite bringing the fight to the iPhone the way that many people predicted when it came out...

 

Sales estimated at 6 million after 20 days on market, vs 10 million iPhone 6 sales on first weekend when it came out. And the iPhone 6 is getting late in its yearly cycle, so in theory the Galaxy should be best able to compete right now, and it'll lose some ground when the iPhone 6S comes out this September...

 

http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2015/06/02/galaxy-hasnt-edged-out-iphone/

 

Also notable: Wall Street’s estimate for total iPhone sales in the current quarter ending this month is 46 million units, or a little more than 15 million per month. In other words, iPhone shipments in April are expected to exceed those for the Galaxy S6 by about 50%–and that is six months after the launch of Apple’s device
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