GOOGL - Google

[DCG]

Android fragmentation:

 

http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/27/android-fragmentation-gets-visualized-infographic/

 

What a mess.

 

I was just coming on here to post this. This is exactly what I've been saying on here recently, and why I won't consider buying another Android device until they get this under some sort of control. 

 

I'm so much happier with my new iPhone than I was with my Android phone.

 

I'm a Google shareholder, but for their search business and not Android. Google makes money from searches on Android, which is why ther main focus of it is to get it on as many devices as possible, not to build the best OS or devices. The focus of Android manufacturers is to basically produce as many phones as they can to try to sell as many NEW phones as they can (meaning to new customers - there clearly is no focus on trying to build any sort of loyalty for their individual brands). The manufacturers have no product ecosystem to focus on, just hardware.

 

This is a big reason why there are really no operating systems anywhere close to the level of Apple's.

 

Here's the chart for people who don't want to follow the link:

 

http://www-bgr-com.vimg.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/android.png

[Liberty]

http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2011/11/gmails-new-look.html

[Liberty]

http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-monthly-200809-201107

 

Chrome's growth is impressive. Always dangerous to extrapolate, but it looks like it could overtake FF and then IE in the next year or two.

[Guest valueInv]

http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2011/11/gmails-new-look.html

 

Their reader redesign doesn't seem too popular:

 

http://brianshih.com/78073742

[Myth465]

It downright sucks....

[Guest valueInv]

Wow! Google is really showing its product prowess today:

 

http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/02/new-gmail-app-for-iphone-is-unusable-shows-errors-on-launch/

 

And they have  some of the best designers in the Silicon Valley working for them.

[rkbabang]

I use google reader and gmail heavily and I love the new interface for both of them.  Granted I didn't use any of the social features that they got rid of, I just use reader as an RSS reader and I use gmail to read/send email.  I think the new user interfaces are really nice.

[DCG]

Wow! Google is really showing its product prowess today:

 

http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/02/new-gmail-app-for-iphone-is-unusable-shows-errors-on-launch/

 

And they have  some of the best designers in the Silicon Valley working for them.

 

I downloaded the app and it is far from unusable - Techcrunch is fishing for a story and greatly fabricating it.

 

I got an error message when I first launched the app. I clicked 'ok' and logged in and it works really well so far. I downloaded it on my iPhone and iPad. I like the iPhone interface a lot. As far as the iPad version, it's basically the same as the Gmail display on an iPad browser, which is awful in portrait mode, and ok in landscape. In the portrait mode on the iPad it doesn't load the full email, and it basically displays your emails behind the inbox. Not sure how anyone really uses the GMail app or mobile on the iPad, as it doesn't compare with the iOS mail app.

 

I also don't understand the hate for the Google Reader re-design. I generally use apps like Pulse, which integrate with your Google Reader feeds, more than Google Reader itself, but the re-design looks like a nice change to me.

 

I think people just like to freak out anytime changes are made with anything. I'm still waiting to try the new Gmail update (the browser version), as it hasn't yet been pushed out to my account.

[Guest valueInv]

Wow! Google is really showing its product prowess today:

 

http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/02/new-gmail-app-for-iphone-is-unusable-shows-errors-on-launch/

 

And they have  some of the best designers in the Silicon Valley working for them.

 

I downloaded the app and it is far from unusable - Techcrunch is fishing for a story and greatly fabricating it.

 

I got an error message when I first launched the app. I clicked 'ok' and logged in and it works really well so far. I downloaded it on my iPhone and iPad. I like the iPhone interface a lot. As far as the iPad version, it's basically the same as the Gmail display on an iPad browser, which is awful in portrait mode, and ok in landscape. In the portrait mode on the iPad it doesn't load the full email, and it basically displays your emails behind the inbox. Not sure how anyone really uses the GMail app or mobile on the iPad, as it doesn't compare with the iOS mail app.

 

I also don't understand the hate for the Google Reader re-design. I generally use apps like Pulse, which integrate with your Google Reader feeds, more than Google Reader itself, but the re-design looks like a nice change to me.

 

I think people just like to freak out anytime changes are made with anything. I'm still waiting to try the new Gmail update (the browser version), as it hasn't yet been pushed out to my account.

 

I don't think they're fabricating the story:

 

https://plus.google.com/u/0/111091089527727420853/posts/i5agW3iZy26

 

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-20129136-233/looks-like-google-borked-its-first-iphone-gmail-app/

 

Best comment so far:

 

"I think Apple approved it to embarrass Google"  ;D ;D

[rmitz]

It downright sucks....

 

I didn't mind it.  I like it better in fullscreen mode, though (hit f).

[Guest valueInv]

Wow! Google is really showing its product prowess today:

 

http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/02/new-gmail-app-for-iphone-is-unusable-shows-errors-on-launch/

 

And they have  some of the best designers in the Silicon Valley working for them.

 

I downloaded the app and it is far from unusable - Techcrunch is fishing for a story and greatly fabricating it.

 

I got an error message when I first launched the app. I clicked 'ok' and logged in and it works really well so far. I downloaded it on my iPhone and iPad. I like the iPhone interface a lot. As far as the iPad version, it's basically the same as the Gmail display on an iPad browser, which is awful in portrait mode, and ok in landscape. In the portrait mode on the iPad it doesn't load the full email, and it basically displays your emails behind the inbox. Not sure how anyone really uses the GMail app or mobile on the iPad, as it doesn't compare with the iOS mail app.

 

I also don't understand the hate for the Google Reader re-design. I generally use apps like Pulse, which integrate with your Google Reader feeds, more than Google Reader itself, but the re-design looks like a nice change to me.

 

I think people just like to freak out anytime changes are made with anything. I'm still waiting to try the new Gmail update (the browser version), as it hasn't yet been pushed out to my account.

 

It looks like the app is a wrapper around the gmail mobile site:

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattgemmell/sets/72157627912430843/with/6306059435/

 

Do you see any features other than notifications?

 

 

[DCG]

Wow! Google is really showing its product prowess today:

 

http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/02/new-gmail-app-for-iphone-is-unusable-shows-errors-on-launch/

 

And they have  some of the best designers in the Silicon Valley working for them.

 

I downloaded the app and it is far from unusable - Techcrunch is fishing for a story and greatly fabricating it.

 

I got an error message when I first launched the app. I clicked 'ok' and logged in and it works really well so far. I downloaded it on my iPhone and iPad. I like the iPhone interface a lot. As far as the iPad version, it's basically the same as the Gmail display on an iPad browser, which is awful in portrait mode, and ok in landscape. In the portrait mode on the iPad it doesn't load the full email, and it basically displays your emails behind the inbox. Not sure how anyone really uses the GMail app or mobile on the iPad, as it doesn't compare with the iOS mail app.

 

I also don't understand the hate for the Google Reader re-design. I generally use apps like Pulse, which integrate with your Google Reader feeds, more than Google Reader itself, but the re-design looks like a nice change to me.

 

I think people just like to freak out anytime changes are made with anything. I'm still waiting to try the new Gmail update (the browser version), as it hasn't yet been pushed out to my account.

 

I don't think they're fabricating the story:

 

https://plus.google.com/u/0/111091089527727420853/posts/i5agW3iZy26

 

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-20129136-233/looks-like-google-borked-its-first-iphone-gmail-app/

 

Best comment so far:

 

"I think Apple approved it to embarrass Google"  ;D ;D

 

The Techcrunch headline said the app was 'unusable'. I've used it several times this afternoon to send, receive, and label emails without any problems at all. I just had to click past the initial error message.

[VAL9000]

The Techcrunch headline said the app was 'unusable'. I've used it several times this afternoon to send, receive, and label emails without any problems at all. I just had to click past the initial error message.

 

With Arrington gone, I think TC's quality and reputation are rapidly degrading.  Here's another recent example:

http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/31/halloween-costume-db/

 

Why is the editor of the most important blog in tech profiling an utterly useless website?  There is nothing innovative, interesting or newsworthy here.  It's very odd and even for a topical hallowe'en article it's just weak.

 

I am keeping tabs on this trend with respect to TC's standards.

 

[abyli]

The new Google Reader is not bad, it is very bad. I can not read this board from my kindle 3 any more. So many people hate this new design.

[Guest Hester]

This guy can be a little out there at times, and I am sure many of you know his blog, Stableboy Selections. He is convinced that voice recognition systems will erode Google's search market share heavily. No opinion myself.

 

http://stableboyselections.com/2011/11/07/google-how-will-the-monopoly-in-the-paid-search-business-fare-when-the-business-of-paid-search-begins-to-decline/

[Guest valueInv]

The new Google Reader is not bad, it is very bad. I can not read this board from my kindle 3 any more. So many people hate this new design.

 

I am really getting frustrated with it. It magically marks "unread" posts as "read". Any other options for RSS aggregators out there?

 

[DCG]

The new Google Reader is not bad, it is very bad. I can not read this board from my kindle 3 any more. So many people hate this new design.

 

I am really getting frustrated with it. It magically marks "unread" posts as "read". Any other options for RSS aggregators out there?

 

There are tons of aggregators out there...what device/operating system?

[Rabbitisrich]

This guy can be a little out there at times, and I am sure many of you know his blog, Stableboy Selections. He is convinced that voice recognition systems will erode Google's search market share heavily. No opinion myself.

 

http://stableboyselections.com/2011/11/07/google-how-will-the-monopoly-in-the-paid-search-business-fare-when-the-business-of-paid-search-begins-to-decline/

 

Eric Schmidt noted a similar possibility. The scary thing about tech companies is that competition doesn't have to come from a like competitor. Who knew that when Apple released the Ipod it would support a string of hits that would erode RIMM's U.S. franchise?

[meiroy]

 

What is said about the possible obsolescence of Google's technological edge is true for any other company to some degree.  One only has to read posts on this thread to see why it's possible, yet less likely for Google.

 

 

"There will always be a need for an index search like Google performs, [but the most common search activities will drift away from Google.The problem for Google is that it makes most money from the most common searches. "

 

"The day is not far, when third party apps will filter the results from Google to provide the user with the right answer without showing ads from which Google makes money. "

 

So, he is saying that Google will still be the one that would provide the "content". Even if this what indeed will happen, is he suggesting that Google would provide this content for free?

 

 

Hmm I could go on but in truth this article is just provocative and biased for choosing SIRI as an example.

 

 

 

[Guest valueInv]

Google+ doesn't seem to be that impressive:

 

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/11/google_had_a_chance_to_compete_with_facebook_not_anymore_.html

[meiroy]

Google+ doesn't seem to be that impressive:

 

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/11/google_had_a_chance_to_compete_with_facebook_not_anymore_.html

 

 

There's so much information out there it's easy to go and pick some article to confirm whatever opinion you'd like to express.

 

Here's another link:

http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2011/11/google-plus-pages/

Why Google Plus Pages (Will) Beat Facebook. And Twitter

 

Now I can spend another 5 second and find some article stating that Google+ sucks.

 

Oh, and BTW, you're seriously trolling this thread.

 

 

 

[Guest Hester]

Google+ doesn't seem to be that impressive:

 

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/11/google_had_a_chance_to_compete_with_facebook_not_anymore_.html

 

 

There's so much information out there it's easy to go and pick some article to confirm whatever opinion you'd like to express.

 

Here's another link:

http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2011/11/google-plus-pages/

Why Google Plus Pages (Will) Beat Facebook. And Twitter

 

Now I can spend another 5 second and find some article stating that Google+ sucks.

 

Oh, and BTW, you're seriously trolling this thread.

 

How is he trolling this thread?!? There might be many articles on Google+ but I found the Slate article interesting and another viewpoint. It's not like this was some obscur blog, it's a major website. There is no need to censor negative information.

[meiroy]

Google+ doesn't seem to be that impressive:

 

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/11/google_had_a_chance_to_compete_with_facebook_not_anymore_.html

 

 

There's so much information out there it's easy to go and pick some article to confirm whatever opinion you'd like to express.

 

Here's another link:

http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2011/11/google-plus-pages/

Why Google Plus Pages (Will) Beat Facebook. And Twitter

 

Now I can spend another 5 second and find some article stating that Google+ sucks.

 

Oh, and BTW, you're seriously trolling this thread.

 

How is he trolling this thread?!? There might be many articles on Google+ but I found the Slate article interesting and another viewpoint. It's not like this was some obscur blog, it's a major website. There is no need to censor negative information.

 

If you would follow this thread from the beginning and note all his posts, not just the one above, it should be quite obvious, especially if it's compared to another thread.

 

Anyhow, I do agree with you that negative posts and push back is extremely important, so trolling the thread does have its helpful aspect even if it's for the sake of trolling.

 

 

[Guest valueInv]

Google+ doesn't seem to be that impressive:

 

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/11/google_had_a_chance_to_compete_with_facebook_not_anymore_.html

 

 

There's so much information out there it's easy to go and pick some article to confirm whatever opinion you'd like to express.

 

Here's another link:

http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2011/11/google-plus-pages/

Why Google Plus Pages (Will) Beat Facebook. And Twitter

 

Now I can spend another 5 second and find some article stating that Google+ sucks.

 

Oh, and BTW, you're seriously trolling this thread.

 

How is he trolling this thread?!? There might be many articles on Google+ but I found the Slate article interesting and another viewpoint. It's not like this was some obscur blog, it's a major website. There is no need to censor negative information.

 

If you would follow this thread from the beginning and note all his posts, not just the one above, it should be quite obvious, especially if it's compared to another thread.

 

Anyhow, I do agree with you that negative posts and push back is extremely important, so trolling the thread does have its helpful aspect even if it's for the sake of trolling.

 

Here's the definition of trolling:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

 

Let me address the characteristics:

 

Inflammatory:  I hold a negative view on Google. My posts are in support of this view. If you read through the posts, you'll see most of them contain some sort of evidence or datapoints that I used to form my opinion. I used that to keep myself from making unsupported claims and keeping myslef grounded. Opinions should be based on facts and analysis. When you don't have perfect information, you make an educated guess. I have not attacked a person, I have attacked a point of view. Being bearish on a company is not trolling.

 

Extraneous or off-topic: This is a thread about Google. I am on topic.

 

BTW, this thread is far less heated than many others like the RIMM thread.

 

I welcome you prove me wrong on Google. But please do so with some concrete backing, not claims.

 

 

 

[Guest valueInv]

The new Google Reader is not bad, it is very bad. I can not read this board from my kindle 3 any more. So many people hate this new design.

 

I am really getting frustrated with it. It magically marks "unread" posts as "read". Any other options for RSS aggregators out there?

 

There are tons of aggregators out there...what device/operating system?

 

I finally settled on Reeder on the Mac. It has some quirks but has the best user experience by far, IMO.