GOOGL - Google

[meiroy]

This is interesting: https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=chromecast

 

Basically a $35 Google TV packaged in an HDMI dongle.

 

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18uvf32zw8yq9jpg/k-bigpic.jpg

 

Impressive. I'll definitely be getting one.

[Guest wellmont]

out of stock...44 reviews (4 of 5 stars) in one day.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Google-Chromecast-Streaming-Media-Player/dp/B00DR0PDNE/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374764721&sr=1-1&keywords=chromecast

[Guest valueInv]

You gotta wonder if the geniuses at Google did their due diligence before writing a $12.5B check:

 

http://gigaom.com/2013/07/24/google-and-ftc-reach-final-deal-in-motorola-patent-dispute/

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1571732-uspto-checkmates-google-over-vringo-patents?source=google_news

 

Sounds like the smart guy in the room was Motorola's CEO.

[locatevalue]

out of stock...44 reviews (4 of 5 stars) in one day.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Google-Chromecast-Streaming-Media-Player/dp/B00DR0PDNE/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374764721&sr=1-1&keywords=chromecast

 

I just purchased 2 from my local BestBuy, They are amazing value with netflix 3months free with each pacakage. I do use netflix and basically i am buying each for around $8 including tax to convert my flat screen and media room to smart TV's.  I see 2 more in shelf, I can buy those and sell them at ebay around $150 bucks but thought of leaving it for some college kid with enterpenural skills :)

[Guest wellmont]

Google's chromecast: 1 day sales --- 114  4 of 5 star reviews

 

Best Sellers Rank

 

    #1 in Electronics > Televisions & Video

    #1 in Electronics > Home Audio & Theater > Multiroom Digital Music Systems > Streaming Media Players

    #1 in Electronics > Computers & Add-Ons > Networking Products > Network Adapters

 

[Guest valueInv]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-29/why-are-google-employees-so-disloyal-.html

[Guest wellmont]

Google's chromecast: 1 day sales --- 233 4 of 5 star reviews

 

Best Sellers Rank 

 

    #1 in Electronics > Televisions & Video

    #1 in Electronics > Home Audio & Theater > Multiroom Digital Music Systems > Streaming Media Players

    #1 in Electronics > Computers & Add-Ons > Networking Products > Network Adapters

[Guest valueInv]

Google's chromecast: 1 day sales --- 233 4 of 5 star reviews

 

Best Sellers Rank 

 

    #1 in Electronics > Televisions & Video

    #1 in Electronics > Home Audio & Theater > Multiroom Digital Music Systems > Streaming Media Players

    #1 in Electronics > Computers & Add-Ons > Networking Products > Network Adapters

 

Cue the AppleTv is losing marketshare comments in 5..4..3..2..

[Guest wellmont]

Neil Mawston, Executive Director at Strategy Analytics, added, "The Android operating system captured a record 80 percent share of all smartphones shipped worldwide in" the second quarter of 2013. Competitive licensing costs, numerous hardware partners and a large apps store continue to be among the main drivers of Android’s success. Apple iOS reached 14 percent global smartphone share in the quarter, its lowest level since Q2 2010. Microsoft slotted into third position with 4 percent share, reaching its highest level in the global smartphone market for three years."

 

I still remember people saying Android was "toast" once Iphone got on Verizon.  ::)

[Guest valueInv]

Neil Mawston, Executive Director at Strategy Analytics, added, "The Android operating system captured a record 80 percent share of all smartphones shipped worldwide in" the second quarter of 2013. Competitive licensing costs, numerous hardware partners and a large apps store continue to be among the main drivers of Android’s success. Apple iOS reached 14 percent global smartphone share in the quarter, its lowest level since Q2 2010. Microsoft slotted into third position with 4 percent share, reaching its highest level in the global smartphone market for three years."

 

I still remember people saying Android was "toast" once Iphone got on Verizon.  ::)

 

I still remember people saying that Apple has the worst capital allocation in history.

::)

[Guest valueInv]

I'm curious.  How many of you techies/developers on the board are following/waiting for Ubuntu for Android?

 

And how much would you pay for a Motorola X phone that comes pre-loaded with Ubuntu for Android?

 

I'm not sure phones are powerful enough yet for that to be something I'd want.  I have a Raspberry Pi, which is basically Linux on ARM.  It is fun to play with, but awfully slow compared with Linux on an x86 PC.  As mobile processors get faster and phones become more powerful I'd love to have just one computing device which worked as a phone in one mode and could be hooked to a keyboard and monitor in another mode.  Maybe a tablet mode where you leave the phone in your pocket and hold a dumb tablet in your hand which just serves as a larger screen and touchscreen input device for your phone running Linux.  I'd love all of that, but right now the processing power just isn't there in a phone to replace PCs.

 

Check it out:

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge?c=home

 

Canonical is trying to crowdfund a device like the one I was talking about.

 

Not surprisingly, not much interest:

 

http://techcrunch.com/2013/08/07/ubuntu-edge-gets-its-first-major-corporate-backer-in-bloomberg-but-funding-still-off-needed-pace/

 

Maybe BBRY's version will do better  ;)

[txlaw]

I'm curious.  How many of you techies/developers on the board are following/waiting for Ubuntu for Android?

 

And how much would you pay for a Motorola X phone that comes pre-loaded with Ubuntu for Android?

 

I'm not sure phones are powerful enough yet for that to be something I'd want.  I have a Raspberry Pi, which is basically Linux on ARM.  It is fun to play with, but awfully slow compared with Linux on an x86 PC.  As mobile processors get faster and phones become more powerful I'd love to have just one computing device which worked as a phone in one mode and could be hooked to a keyboard and monitor in another mode.  Maybe a tablet mode where you leave the phone in your pocket and hold a dumb tablet in your hand which just serves as a larger screen and touchscreen input device for your phone running Linux.  I'd love all of that, but right now the processing power just isn't there in a phone to replace PCs.

 

Check it out:

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge?c=home

 

Canonical is trying to crowdfund a device like the one I was talking about.

 

Not surprisingly, not much interest:

 

http://techcrunch.com/2013/08/07/ubuntu-edge-gets-its-first-major-corporate-backer-in-bloomberg-but-funding-still-off-needed-pace/

 

Maybe BBRY's version will do better  ;)

 

Not much interest from potential crowdfunders.  That's different than saying there is no interest in such a device. 

 

If Canonical followed through and actually built the type of device they envision, I could definitely see people lining up to purchase it.  Funding such a device, sight unseen, is quite a different proposition.

[Guest valueInv]

I'm curious.  How many of you techies/developers on the board are following/waiting for Ubuntu for Android?

 

And how much would you pay for a Motorola X phone that comes pre-loaded with Ubuntu for Android?

 

I'm not sure phones are powerful enough yet for that to be something I'd want.  I have a Raspberry Pi, which is basically Linux on ARM.  It is fun to play with, but awfully slow compared with Linux on an x86 PC.  As mobile processors get faster and phones become more powerful I'd love to have just one computing device which worked as a phone in one mode and could be hooked to a keyboard and monitor in another mode.  Maybe a tablet mode where you leave the phone in your pocket and hold a dumb tablet in your hand which just serves as a larger screen and touchscreen input device for your phone running Linux.  I'd love all of that, but right now the processing power just isn't there in a phone to replace PCs.

 

Check it out:

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge?c=home

 

Canonical is trying to crowdfund a device like the one I was talking about.

 

Not surprisingly, not much interest:

 

http://techcrunch.com/2013/08/07/ubuntu-edge-gets-its-first-major-corporate-backer-in-bloomberg-but-funding-still-off-needed-pace/

 

Maybe BBRY's version will do better  ;)

 

Not much interest from potential crowdfunders.  That's different than saying there is no interest in such a device. 

 

If Canonical followed through and actually built the type of device they envision, I could definitely see people lining up to purchase it.  Funding such a device, sight unseen, is quite a different proposition.

 

Crowdfunders are the easiest hurdle to cross (relative). These are excited, geeky,  gadget freaks will to try new stuff and pay a premium. If they can't cross that hurdle, it is unlikely that they will cross bigger hurdles like the mainstream market.

 

Google got the same segment to pony up for Glass, IIRC Pebble blew past its goals and many others. 

[txlaw]

I'm curious.  How many of you techies/developers on the board are following/waiting for Ubuntu for Android?

 

And how much would you pay for a Motorola X phone that comes pre-loaded with Ubuntu for Android?

 

I'm not sure phones are powerful enough yet for that to be something I'd want.  I have a Raspberry Pi, which is basically Linux on ARM.  It is fun to play with, but awfully slow compared with Linux on an x86 PC.  As mobile processors get faster and phones become more powerful I'd love to have just one computing device which worked as a phone in one mode and could be hooked to a keyboard and monitor in another mode.  Maybe a tablet mode where you leave the phone in your pocket and hold a dumb tablet in your hand which just serves as a larger screen and touchscreen input device for your phone running Linux.  I'd love all of that, but right now the processing power just isn't there in a phone to replace PCs.

 

Check it out:

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge?c=home

 

Canonical is trying to crowdfund a device like the one I was talking about.

 

Not surprisingly, not much interest:

 

http://techcrunch.com/2013/08/07/ubuntu-edge-gets-its-first-major-corporate-backer-in-bloomberg-but-funding-still-off-needed-pace/

 

Maybe BBRY's version will do better  ;)

 

Not much interest from potential crowdfunders.  That's different than saying there is no interest in such a device. 

 

If Canonical followed through and actually built the type of device they envision, I could definitely see people lining up to purchase it.  Funding such a device, sight unseen, is quite a different proposition.

 

Crowdfunders are the easiest hurdle to cross (relative). These are excited, geeky,  gadget freaks will to try new stuff and pay a premium. If they can't cross that hurdle, it is unlikely that they will cross bigger hurdles like the mainstream market.

 

Google got the same segment to pony up for Glass, IIRC Pebble blew past its goals and many others.

 

I'd disagree when it comes to this sort of hardware. 

 

The Pebble was a unique but simple device that was available at a pretty good price point.  Ubuntu Edge is unique but very complex -- a lot could go wrong between crowdfunding and an actual device.  After all, if MSFT can't get something like this right on its budget, then you're taking a gamble on something like the Edge. 

 

Also, the target audience -- uber-geeky developers (at least IMO) -- are not the type of folks who are going to be blowing that much dough on an untested hybrid Linux box/phone.  I think the guys you're  talking about are more like the Silicon Valley technorati and tech press types (not necessarily developers or ubergeeks).

 

Google Glass was a very unique situation.  In any case, I don't think Google Glass was a crowdfunded product. 

[Guest wellmont]

 

 

Not much interest from potential crowdfunders.  That's different than saying there is no interest in such a device. 

 

If Canonical followed through and actually built the type of device they envision, I could definitely see people lining up to purchase it.  Funding such a device, sight unseen, is quite a different proposition.

 

nobody is lining up for something from ubuntu. I really think this is a dream that has the open source acolytes in a tizzy. but I don't see a crowdfunded project getting very wide acceptance. unbuntu has no capital to compete.

[txlaw]

 

 

Not much interest from potential crowdfunders.  That's different than saying there is no interest in such a device. 

 

If Canonical followed through and actually built the type of device they envision, I could definitely see people lining up to purchase it.  Funding such a device, sight unseen, is quite a different proposition.

 

nobody is lining up for something from ubuntu. I really think this is a dream that has the open source acolytes in a tizzy. but I don't see a crowdfunded project getting very wide acceptance. unbuntu has no capital to compete.

 

Ubuntu Edge is not intended to gain wide acceptance.  Edge is a cutting edge type project, like Google Glass, which also won't gain wide acceptance (at least in its first iterations).  Also, we're talking about a Linux box here, so why would you even be talking about wide acceptance in the first place?

 

As to capital, you are correct that Canonical doesn't have it.  But remember that Canonical is not a hardware manufacturer -- they make Ubuntu.  They will likely be working with the hardware guys on R&D, if the hardware guys even think it's worthwhile pursuing this.

 

I don't think it's the fact that Ubuntu is open source that has drawn attention to the Edge project.  IMO, it's the vision behind Ubuntu Edge -- all the local computing power you need being in one device -- that makes it interesting to people.

[Guest wellmont]

be that as it may, I don't see this tiny project that is funded by some hardcore linux fans has any investment implications in the 2013/214 time frame. As I stated earlier, if a product like this is ever going to succeed, it will emerge from a well funded start up, that will soon be bought by a larger one. Or it will emerge from the labs of one of the large companies that has a stake in the future of mobile computing.

[txlaw]

be that as it may, I don't see this tiny project that is funded by some hardcore linux fans has any investment implications in the 2013/214 time frame. As I stated earlier, if a product like this is ever going to succeed, it will emerge from a well funded start up, that will soon be bought by a larger one. Or it will emerge from the labs of one of the large companies that has a stake in the future of mobile computing.

 

Haha, okay, okay.  I get that you're not a fan of BBRY, but why take it out on poor Canonical. :)

[bargainman]

What does this have to do with Google?

[Guest valueInv]

 

 

Not much interest from potential crowdfunders.  That's different than saying there is no interest in such a device. 

 

If Canonical followed through and actually built the type of device they envision, I could definitely see people lining up to purchase it.  Funding such a device, sight unseen, is quite a different proposition.

 

nobody is lining up for something from ubuntu. I really think this is a dream that has the open source acolytes in a tizzy. but I don't see a crowdfunded project getting very wide acceptance. unbuntu has no capital to compete.

 

Ubuntu Edge is not intended to gain wide acceptance.  Edge is a cutting edge type project, like Google Glass, which also won't gain wide acceptance (at least in its first iterations).  Also, we're talking about a Linux box here, so why would you even be talking about wide acceptance in the first place?

 

As to capital, you are correct that Canonical doesn't have it.  But remember that Canonical is not a hardware manufacturer -- they make Ubuntu.  They will likely be working with the hardware guys on R&D, if the hardware guys even think it's worthwhile pursuing this.

 

I don't think it's the fact that Ubuntu is open source that has drawn attention to the Edge project.  IMO, it's the vision behind Ubuntu Edge -- all the local computing power you need being in one device -- that makes it interesting to people.

 

Now, this love for the Ubuntu Edge wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that RIM is pitching the same story, would it? ;)

[txlaw]

What does this have to do with Google?

 

Yeah, I could see how these last posts seem out of place, particularly because there are references to the BBRY thread now.  (Thank wellmont and valueInv for alluding to that thread -- they can't help themselves ;D) 

 

It started with my asking if there were any techie/developer board members who were following or waiting for Ubuntu for Android (see http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android).  I was curious to see if there would be any response because I had been thinking about: (1) the notion that we are carrying around most of the local computing power that is necessary in our phones; (2) the different form factors that OS providers need to account for; and (3) OS commoditization. 

 

A hybrid Android and Ubuntu device, if done right and at the right price point, could be the type of device that really helps accelerate the death of the OS licensing model and the shift to making money through software and services, which is what GOOG is all about.  Imagine if a year from now people were buying Android tablets that also run Ubuntu on them and that are cheaper than MSFT's competing solution (Win 8 ) and AAPL's non-solution (apparently, no plans to have a hybrid device any time soon).  GOOG (and the Web) would be a clear winner.

 

And then Ubuntu Edge was announced and I just followed up on that. 

 

But I had also referenced the Edge announcement in the BBRY thread with regards to some comments Thorsten Heins had made at the Milken Institute; hence the love from wellmont and valueInv.

[Guest wellmont]

lol I had no idea bbry is supposedly working on this. that must explain your fascination with this device that frankly baffles me. You brought bbry up not me. And I really don't think bbry is working on anything except getting the next phone that won't sell out the door. :)

[Guest valueInv]

lol I had no idea bbry is supposedly working on this. that must explain your fascination with this device that frankly baffles me. You brought bbry up not me. And I really don't think bbry is working on anything except getting the next phone out that won't sell. :)

 

I went to a presentation at at conference by RIM, they couldn't stop gushing about their "vision of computing" even though they had no products to show.

[Guest wellmont]

lol I had no idea bbry is supposedly working on this. that must explain your fascination with this device that frankly baffles me. You brought bbry up not me. And I really don't think bbry is working on anything except getting the next phone out that won't sell. :)

 

I went to a presentation at at conference by RIM, they couldn't stop gushing about their "vision of computing" even though they had no products to show.

 

well when you don't sell any tablets and your global market share is less than 3% and "shrinking" you better have another story to tell. even if you have to invent one. :)

[Guest valueInv]

Gates is not impressed:

 

http://venturebeat.com/2013/08/08/bill-gates-googles-loon-third-world-internet-project-wont-help-when-youre-dying-of-malaria/