OracleofCarolina Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Biglari does get a $7 million incentive fee in. 2017..nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
writser Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Also he proposes a stock split into a dual class structure. An simple soul such as me might think this is about mr. Big keeping control of the company. Fortunately that is not the case: this is all about "maximizing optionality". The purpose of creating two classes of stock is to enable the issuance of stock in future acquisitions without risking a change of control. To maximize optionality for the benefit of all shareholders, we think it is necessary to create a dual class structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballinvarosig Investors Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 So it looks like the huge incentive fee of nearly $9M that was paid out to Biglari last year was almost entirely as of the result of the Trump tax cut. In 2017, an increase in shareholders’ equity was derived from a re-measurement in deferred tax liability to the new statutory rate applicable to unrealized gains on marketable securities. If Biglari had any integrity, he would hand back that unearned incentive fee. Pigs will fly long before that ever happens though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnamstreet Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I'm reminded of http://www.cornerofberkshireandfairfax.ca/forum/general-discussion/repost2-a-parable-about-how-one-man's-reputation-came-to-ruin/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Txvestor Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 So it looks like the huge incentive fee of nearly $9M that was paid out to Biglari last year was almost entirely as of the result of the Trump tax cut. In 2017, an increase in shareholders’ equity was derived from a re-measurement in deferred tax liability to the new statutory rate applicable to unrealized gains on marketable securities. If Biglari had any integrity, he would hand back that unearned incentive fee. Pigs will fly long before that ever happens though. Totally agree. A complete lack of ethics here. You wouldn’t have heard as much as a pip squeek out of him had corporate taxes gone up and the company had to take a write down. This guy is devious and i hope sooner or later the SEC or other such regulatory body catches up with him. When you dance so close to the edge of the cliff sooner or later you mis-step. Utterly disgusting, considering the pathetic operational performance in 2017. Sad part is he has surrounded himself with a bunch of yesmen and noone to even dare ask him about this at the shareholder meeting. Even knowing he will give a blunt and dismissive answer it was worth the ask. He keeps going back to S&P. What has he done since 2012? He has badly underperformed. What was he paid? We know the answer. Can’t live off past glory forever Mr Bigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awindenberger Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Totally agree. A complete lack of ethics here. You wouldn’t have heard as much as a pip squeek out of him had corporate taxes gone up and the company had to take a write down. If taxes had gone up and a write-down was required, it would have lowered any potential incentive to him. Many companies prospects have improved as a result of the tax cuts, which has resulting in higher stock values. I'm certain that most CEOs are very happy to be taking increased bonuses etc as a result (Buffett being a notable exception). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnamstreet Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 In light of the compensation news .... remember this from 2010 : https://www.ibj.com/articles/19946-bait-and-switch-at-biglari-holdings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abitofvalue Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Good grief.. 2017 Incentive Payout. Mr. Biglari received an incentive fee of $7,353,250 primarily attributable to net earnings of $50,071,000. Net earnings included an income tax benefit of $53,545,000 derived from a reduction in deferred tax liability related to the Corporation’s significant unrealized gains on marketable securities. I am sure there wouldn't have been any "1x adjustments" had taxes been raised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonomen Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Despite his stupidity, shareholders are not punishing the company. I wonder how the share can stay above 400 USD. When will people give up on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoCitiesCapital Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Despite his stupidity, shareholders are not punishing the company. I wonder how the share can stay above 400 USD. When will people give up on him? When it's too late... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hjorth Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 ... When it's too late... Awesome humor, TwoCitiesCapital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OracleofCarolina Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 I bet if the share price drags lower, a motivated buyer could make a lowball offer, say $450, and take this thing private...assuming the controlling shareholders approve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Txvestor Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Ah but who then would Mr Bigs dick around with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spekulatius Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 I bet if the share price drags lower, a motivated buyer could make a lowball offer, say $450, and take this thing private...assuming the controlling shareholders approve Doesn’t Mr. Big already has effective control? I don’t think he would give it up, BH is his golden goose and he will own most of it and squeeze existing shareholders out. I bet he would fight any changes or offers harder than Cracker Barrel’s management did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
given2invest Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 lol this is BH's piggy bank he wouldn't sell for $1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OracleofCarolina Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 lol this is BH's piggy bank he wouldn't sell for $1000 What if Bigs is the one making the offer?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Txvestor Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 He won’t. Cuz he knows he can just take it from minority shareholders a little at a time. As he does that the loyal minority shareholder base defending him will just be like polar bears perched on a melting iceberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bci23 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Despite his stupidity, shareholders are not punishing the company. I wonder how the share can stay above 400 USD. When will people give up on him? When it's too late... I think most would say its already too late. The point of no return was when he tendered to obtain over 50% of the company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benhacker Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I'm reminded of an old quote every time I check in here. "When someone shows you who they are. Believe them." Seemed pretty clear for about 8 years here. Believe him guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoCitiesCapital Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Despite his stupidity, shareholders are not punishing the company. I wonder how the share can stay above 400 USD. When will people give up on him? When it's too late... I think most would say its already too late. The point of no return was when he tendered to obtain over 50% of the company. I think most who have stayed away would say it's too late. The share price suggests that the majority believe otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Txvestor Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I think its clear that the board is bifurcated and people are polarized both ways. Time shall reveal the truth. One thing is for damn sure and I would hope we can all agree. If you are a minority shareholder, you have little recourse and you are entirely at the mercy of Mr Biglari. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsad Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Below are some highlights from the article/interview I referenced in my other post about Biglari Cafe. Again, I should mention that I cannot at all guarantee the accuracy of the translation and I'm not even completely sure which French publication first published this story - it seems that it was published in a few places. Anyway, enjoy reading about Sardar Biglari's side project "Biglari Cafe" and its fine caviar (that is, if the translation is correct about the caviar). There's actually alot of pictures on Google "images" if you type "Biglari Cafe". Kudos to Sardar! He's done everything he's set out to do...can we really blame him at this point? Everything was completely legal, obvious and shareholders informed as it occurred. I'm beyond feeling sorry for shareholders at this point, because they were as complicit as anyone in what happened. We made plenty of money in the early days of Western Sizzlin and Steak'n Shake, and were smart enough to get out and invest elsewhere. And we don't want anything to do with Biglari Holdings. But he's doing everything he set out to do...not unlike many other centi-millionaires...and now he's not beholden to anyone ever again unless he screws up with too much leverage or runs it into the ground. He's living the life he always imagined and worked hard for...not everyone's cup of tea...but that's what he likes and enjoys. Who knows what will happen...BH may be massive 20 years from now...or it may not exist! Who knows...who cares! Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partner24 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Who knows what will happen...BH may be massive 20 years from now...or it may not exist! Who knows...who cares! Cheers! ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR1400 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 How did Biglari get his initial capital? I saw where he sold an intervener service provider, does anyone know how much he sold it for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsad Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 A number of people have told me that there is a picture of Biglari Cafe in an issue of Maxim magazine that came out today apparently. That is purely a coincidence and I haven't seen the pictures in the magazine yet but maybe he will start promoting the cafe in Maxim. I would much rather hang out in a Steak'n Shake, than Biglari Cafe. Steak'n Shake is such a terrific business...it should be making $40-50M net profit each year right now. How many high end cafes can be franchised and rolled out...this is not a Starbucks. It's a passion project...the way life should be lived in a Biglari world! And what he's really trying to do is create the brand...think Trump, who somehow became President...the brand is very powerful and is difficult to damage once established. People will forget his behavior or they will ignore it completely...I think most would argue that the Trump brand is stronger today, even with the chaos that rules the Trump Presidency and family. Biglari could be the next Trump brand 20-30 years from now. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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