Parsad Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 That's why these guys are so good...they go where no one is looking! Leucadia is acquiring control of National Beef Packing Company for $867M. Cheers! http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Leucadia-National-Corporation-bw-1918788710.html?x=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsad Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 Here's their website: http://www.nationalbeef.com/Home.aspx Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I certainly didn't see that one coming ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rranjan Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I certainly didn't see that one coming ??? Rarely you can predict their moves in advance. You can predict when they are adding to their existing holding but any new buys are not easy to predict. In my opinion, a bet on LUK at right price is essentially a bet on these two guys and they are very good at that they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrB Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 5 min scan FY (Aug 27) 2011 2010 2009 Revenue (M) 6,849.47 5,807.93 5,449.28 EBITDA (M) 324.15 322.15 219.09 EBIT (M) 272.96 271.01 174.72 Income Available to Com Excl ExtraOrd (M) 258.49 247.09 142.86 P/S 0.13 PE 3.30 EV/NI 5.20 ((868+528-50)/258) 528 on and off balance sheet debt Other: Unconsolidated sub - Might be worth something Balance sheet will need extra analysis work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombgrt Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Yes, I had a quick look at ebit etc. as well and it looks crazy cheap. Ajusted for their 79% stake they get $200M in earnings per year and possibly growing. :o I sold some BRK for LUK at $24 and later at $20,2 and think they will do very well, as they did in the past. Great to see that they are making big deals that won't be affected by Mr. Markets sentiment and will provide steady streams of cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Graham Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Yes, I had a quick look at ebit etc. as well and it looks crazy cheap. Ajusted for their 79% stake they get $200M in earnings per year and possibly growing. :o I sold some BRK for LUK at $24 and later at $20,2 and think they will do very well, as they did in the past. Great to see that they are making big deals that won't be affected by Mr. Markets sentiment and will provide steady streams of cash. Where's the beef? ;) * Buy out the business or have a very large position, so that Mr Market has very little to say in the matter - Control * Steady streams of cash * The Warren Buffett Way These are the luxuries of having the elephant guns, otherwise investors have to ride coat tails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dazel Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Mediocre business at best as beef prices have almost doubled over the last 2 years. This is obviously reflected in the price they paid. Classic Graham.....they are very different then berkshire...this business could be very bad. However, they feel they are protected by the cheap price. I trust their judgement as they are extremely smart. Dazel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookie71 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 From way back in the dark ages when I did some feed lots, ranchers and packing houses, the bottom line isn't based on the price of beef but getting their x.xx per pound for cutting the steer up. If they know what they are doing they can hedge the price. The poor ranchers can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkshiremystery Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Some news that rational investors use to buy more instead of being scared. ;D Ian Cumming & Joepeh Steinberg, one of the best investor duo next to Buffett/Munger and Watsa/Chou, may get downgraded. I sleep very well being LUK long :) Do I love silly announcements. ;) Moody's eyes ratings downgrade for Leucadia http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Moody-eyes-ratings-downgrade-apf-1464092740.html?x=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dazel Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 We are happy....we would like to buy some of their debt....nice yield. dazel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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