twacowfca Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 What's the best way to buy a put on long dated, 20 to 30 year, US Treasury Bonds? The put would be for more than a month, ideally for a few months or for a year or longer. The put could perhaps be on a long dated US Treasury Bond fund or something related to the prices of long dated USTs, or their yields as a call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dazel Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Buying a call option on tbt... Which shorts longer dated treasuries...would be an option..pardon the pun! Dazel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twacowfca Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 Thanks for the info. Long Treasuries are exhibiting a classic bubble pattern, but the bubble appears to be about a year or two from popping. We'll know more as the pattern develops. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross812 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 TBT is designed to track the 200% inverse of the daily performance of the Barclays Capital 20+ Year U.S. Treasury Bond Index. This causes price decay of the ETF over the long term as the futures contracts are renewed daily in a flat market. Example: In a flat market moving +/- 5% a 2x ETF moves 10%- Starting at $100 then you get: $110, $99, $108.90, $98.01. A long Put on UBT Ultra Long 20+ year Treasuries would be more prudent because the price decay caused by daily futures contract expiration and your assumption the US Treasury Bill bubble will pop are aligned. I haven’t checked the option prices of UBT and TBT but I assume TBT calls are cheaper than UBT puts because of the time decay so this effect may already be reflected in the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finetrader Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 10 year treasuries on the upside after FED extends low-rate. http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=^tnx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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