Jurgis Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Hey all: Yet another story about AMZN and how they have nice, good, well paying jobs! http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/amazon-drivers-forced-deliver-200-11668823 This report is not unique to the UK, there are similar stories coming out of the USA. Amurhica and Great Brexitan are kapitalist countries. Stop advocating vorkers rights, gobirment rules and union socialism here. We don't need no stinking OSHA in Great Amuhrika! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTEJD1997 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Hey all: Yet another story about AMZN and how they have nice, good, well paying jobs! http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/amazon-drivers-forced-deliver-200-11668823 This report is not unique to the UK, there are similar stories coming out of the USA. Amurhica and Great Brexitan are kapitalist countries. Stop advocating vorkers rights, gobirment rules and union socialism here. We don't need no stinking OSHA in Great Amuhrika! Fair enough, fair enough! Think about this though...if a company is willing to treat it's workers like this...what would they be willing to do to their shareholders? What would they do to their customers? What would they do to their business associates (suppliers)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgis Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Hey all: Yet another story about AMZN and how they have nice, good, well paying jobs! http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/amazon-drivers-forced-deliver-200-11668823 This report is not unique to the UK, there are similar stories coming out of the USA. Amurhica and Great Brexitan are kapitalist countries. Stop advocating vorkers rights, gobirment rules and union socialism here. We don't need no stinking OSHA in Great Amuhrika! Fair enough, fair enough! Think about this though...if a company is willing to treat it's workers like this...what would they be willing to do to their shareholders? What would they do to their customers? What would they do to their business associates (suppliers)? I was told on this forum in no uncertain terms that companies have no obligations to their workers. Perhaps the people who said that can also tell about company obligations to their suppliers... ::) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Hey all: Yet another story about AMZN and how they have nice, good, well paying jobs! http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/amazon-drivers-forced-deliver-200-11668823 This report is not unique to the UK, there are similar stories coming out of the USA. Yeah, the Daily Mirror, ok. Finding an overworked delivery person in the holiday season isn't hard at any company, I'm pretty sure. But because this is about Amazon, it makes for good click bait for a tabloid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTEJD1997 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Hey all: Yet another story about AMZN and how they have nice, good, well paying jobs! http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/amazon-drivers-forced-deliver-200-11668823 This report is not unique to the UK, there are similar stories coming out of the USA. Yeah, the Daily Mirror, ok. Finding an overworked delivery person in the holiday season isn't hard at any company, I'm pretty sure. But because this is about Amazon, it makes for good click bait for a tabloid. Yeah ok, check out the interwebs! They are rife with stories of the terrible conditions inside of AMZN warehouses. One commonality with the delivery drivers is that AMZN hires temp agencies to put distance between themselves & the workers. They are trying to manufacture plausible deniability. If you go to the Google, you will be overwhelmed with stories of poor working conditions at AMZN: https://www.thestreet.com/story/14312539/1/amazon-warehouse-employees-discuss-grueling-work.html http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/11/27/undercover-reporter-reveals-brutal-working-conditions-at-amazon https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5004230/amazon-warehouse-working-conditions/ https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/16/technology/inside-amazon-wrestling-big-ideas-in-a-bruising-workplace.html https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/03/amazon-warehouse-theft There are dozens & dozens of other articles through the years. Poor treatment of workers is a common thread. Of course, AMZN is not the only company engaged in this. TSLA is notorious for hiring "contract" workers and then having them work silly hours that results in wages less than minimum wage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clutch Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Hey all: Yet another story about AMZN and how they have nice, good, well paying jobs! http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/amazon-drivers-forced-deliver-200-11668823 This report is not unique to the UK, there are similar stories coming out of the USA. Yeah, the Daily Mirror, ok. Finding an overworked delivery person in the holiday season isn't hard at any company, I'm pretty sure. But because this is about Amazon, it makes for good click bait for a tabloid. Yeah ok, check out the interwebs! They are rife with stories of the terrible conditions inside of AMZN warehouses. One commonality with the delivery drivers is that AMZN hires temp agencies to put distance between themselves & the workers. They are trying to manufacture plausible deniability. If you go to the Google, you will be overwhelmed with stories of poor working conditions at AMZN: https://www.thestreet.com/story/14312539/1/amazon-warehouse-employees-discuss-grueling-work.html http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/11/27/undercover-reporter-reveals-brutal-working-conditions-at-amazon https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5004230/amazon-warehouse-working-conditions/ https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/16/technology/inside-amazon-wrestling-big-ideas-in-a-bruising-workplace.html https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/03/amazon-warehouse-theft There are dozens & dozens of other articles through the years. Poor treatment of workers is a common thread. Of course, AMZN is not the only company engaged in this. TSLA is notorious for hiring "contract" workers and then having them work silly hours that results in wages less than minimum wage. Have you googled "walmart poor working conditions"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 https://qz.com/1155843/amazonbasics-is-moving-well-beyond-the-basics/ The earliest archived result is for Jun. 8, 2013, when 252 [Amazon Basics] products were listed for sale. Four and a half years later, there are currently 1,506 products for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-18/amazon-hasn-t-figured-out-drug-stores-yet-but-it-will-have-to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkbabang Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2017/12/21/maker-blink-home-security-cameras-bought-amazon/xQ7TbzYxowUkZ1YsqwQedL/story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkie518 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 the impact of meltdown/spectre will be interesting to watch as counter intuitive as it sounds, I bet the cloud players wind up spending more money on ICs passing through the costs to customers for the performance hit ASML, INTC, MU, WDC are likely to benefit as well from the continued transition from on-premise to cloud/Edge and I bet that AWS winds up with more rather than less business resulting from the spec execution vulnerabilities... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareastwarriors Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Mr. Amazon Steps Out Jeff Bezos is the world’s richest person and can afford virtually any luxury. But obscurity is no longer among them. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/12/technology/jeff-bezos-amazon.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fbusiness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowAppreciation Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 http://www.grubstreet.com/2018/01/shoppers-complain-whole-foods-still-has-entirely-empty-shelves.html Very interesting. The past two times I've gone here in NY, I couldn't get garlic, any type of onions, leeks, a certain type of flour, and peppers. I thought nothing of it, just a temporary disruption due to a snow storm or something. But then someone else mentioned to me a similar experience, and now this article. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTEJD1997 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 http://www.grubstreet.com/2018/01/shoppers-complain-whole-foods-still-has-entirely-empty-shelves.html Very interesting. The past two times I've gone here in NY, I couldn't get garlic, any type of onions, leeks, a certain type of flour, and peppers. I thought nothing of it, just a temporary disruption due to a snow storm or something. But then someone else mentioned to me a similar experience, and now this article. Thoughts? If this article is correct...it is like a double whammy. Not only are they losing sales due to product outages, they are damaging the brand! I will be venturing into Whole Foods territory on the periphery of Detroit. I'll try and do a spot check myself and report back. I could really go for some of the Chicken Tikka Massala TV dinners that they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 http://www.grubstreet.com/2018/01/shoppers-complain-whole-foods-still-has-entirely-empty-shelves.html Very interesting. The past two times I've gone here in NY, I couldn't get garlic, any type of onions, leeks, a certain type of flour, and peppers. I thought nothing of it, just a temporary disruption due to a snow storm or something. But then someone else mentioned to me a similar experience, and now this article. Thoughts? Probably the distributors are squeezing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrholty Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 http://www.grubstreet.com/2018/01/shoppers-complain-whole-foods-still-has-entirely-empty-shelves.html Very interesting. The past two times I've gone here in NY, I couldn't get garlic, any type of onions, leeks, a certain type of flour, and peppers. I thought nothing of it, just a temporary disruption due to a snow storm or something. But then someone else mentioned to me a similar experience, and now this article. Thoughts? Probably the distributors are squeezing them. Other way. Amazon is notorious for playing hardball with vendors. My guess is that Whole Foods is way nicer. Cat and Mouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crastogi Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Right on MrHolty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowAppreciation Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Well whatever the cause, I don’t think it’s good for business. Forget the temporary lost sales—it’s really bad for your brand if you’re a supermarket and repeatedly don’t carry onions or flour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watsa_is_a_randian_hero Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 http://www.grubstreet.com/2018/01/shoppers-complain-whole-foods-still-has-entirely-empty-shelves.html Very interesting. The past two times I've gone here in NY, I couldn't get garlic, any type of onions, leeks, a certain type of flour, and peppers. I thought nothing of it, just a temporary disruption due to a snow storm or something. But then someone else mentioned to me a similar experience, and now this article. Thoughts? Probably the distributors are squeezing them. Other way. Amazon is notorious for playing hardball with vendors. My guess is that Whole Foods is way nicer. Cat and Mouse. It may not have anything to do with this, but rather legacy procedures of Whole Foods. In Chicago this has been going on for years with certain produce items, preceding the transaction. My Chicago whole foods produce guys alluded to shortages of produce available at certain seasonal times from farms that meet their standards. I think it (at least historically) was driven more by whole foods team not wanting to sacrifice quality and therefore willing to leave the shelf empty rather than obtain a product. The same missing produce items would always be available at more traditional grocers near by. I also noticed a deterioration in the appearance of the quality and durability of the produce over time. I assumed this was due to the lack of use of certain pesticides and fertilizers that whole foods doesn't want their farmers using; but oftentimes the produce from competing grocers in Chicago has an appearance that looks better and continues to look better in our refrigerator for a longer time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 https://www.recode.net/2018/1/19/16909062/amazon-prime-monthly-price-increase-membership-two-day-shipping I’m guessing that they found that a bunch of people where using the monthly to subscribe just around the holidays, order a truckload of stuff, and then unsub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTEJD1997 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Hey all: I finally got to go to a Whole Foods Market in Birmingham MI. I was generally impressed. The store was pretty much fully stocked...I would guess that 99% of stuff was in inventory and on the shelves. This store moved locations about 1/2 a mile further down the road into a larger location that was probably custom built. Previously, they had been in a "regular" grocery location. This new building is physically larger & better laid out. The actual LOCATION might be slightly worse? It is in a mildly upscale neighborhood. I found it clean, well staffed and generally well run. Most of the employees looked "OK"...a couple of them looked stressed, but not more than any regular store? Nobody, at first glance, appeared to be freaked out working for AMZN. I actually wound up buying more than I initially expected. I was waylaid by some "free samples" of "SUPER JUMBO SHRIMPS" which were quite delicious. I could not help myself, I ate a bunch and bought some to take home & eat over the weekend. I also bought some other things from established brands that I have NEVER seen in other stores. So perhaps WFM is superior in this aspect? I DID NOT get the Indian TV Dinner (chicken Tikka Massalla) that I initially wanted. They were priced WAY higher than Kroger...and Kroger sometimes has them on sale. There appeared to still be some local/regional brands & offerings that would be hard to find elsewhere. The seafood & butcher looked to be EXCEPTIONALLY well stocked, with high quality offerings. Produce looked OK, but some of the prices for stuff was "silly". Prices overall were quite a bit higher than Kroger and competitors in general. Some things were OK, but very, very few things were a "bargain". As compared to a few years ago, prices are most certainly lower. HOWEVER, they are still well above the competition. The fresh & hot food offerings looked OK/GOOD, but not exceptional. Most (not all) of the shoppers looked to be part of the "frou frou" or prosperous type. I would go back if I were in the neighborhood OR needed something special. It is well stocked, well run, expensive grocery store. The problems reported by BusinessInsider & other websites? I did not see them at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 The problems reported by BusinessInsider & other websites? I did not see them at all. How many stores did they say they visited? You don't get pageviews by writing that everything's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowAppreciation Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 The problems reported by BusinessInsider & other websites? I did not see them at all. How many stores did they say they visited? You don't get pageviews by writing that everything's fine. Seemed like mostly NYC, which I've experienced in 2 of them. And I also know one in NJ had similar issues. I did go again to one in NYC two days ago and it seemed better than the week before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 The problems reported by BusinessInsider & other websites? I did not see them at all. How many stores did they say they visited? You don't get pageviews by writing that everything's fine. Seemed like mostly NYC, which I've experienced in 2 of them. And I also know one in NJ had similar issues. I did go again to one in NYC two days ago and it seemed better than the week before. I've seen inventory issues at my local Walmart once in a while, but I don't go write a BI piece about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCLarkin Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 The problems reported by BusinessInsider & other websites? I did not see them at all. How many stores did they say they visited? You don't get pageviews by writing that everything's fine. Seemed like mostly NYC, which I've experienced in 2 of them. And I also know one in NJ had similar issues. I did go again to one in NYC two days ago and it seemed better than the week before. I've seen inventory issues at my local Walmart once in a while, but I don't go write a BI piece about it. Bare shelves at Walmart was a huge news story a year or two ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 In a couple stores? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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