Luke 532 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Yeah I don't see how you can tout buybacks at higher prices as a positive return of capital to s/h, as if its some additional benefit that should be taken into account in analyzing your position. I mean yeah cash was returned to s/h but it was other shareholders. Agreed, that stuff is mostly irrelevant to an investor (whether in the name already or deciding on whether or not to start a position) who is analyzing the company's value today vs. the stock price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gg Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I've asked this before, but anyone have access to the sell-side coverage reports on SHLD? Particularly looking for Credit Suisse (analyst Gary Balter) or Imperial Capital (analyst Mary Gilbert). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareastwarriors Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I've asked this before, but anyone have access to the sell-side coverage reports on SHLD? Particularly looking for Credit Suisse (analyst Gary Balter) or Imperial Capital (analyst Mary Gilbert). CreditSuisse_SHLDThisIsGettingSeriousSHLDRunningOutofOptions_Jan_13_2014.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alertmeipp Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 Sears Holdings Names Norman Miller To Lead Automotive Business Unit http://searsholdings.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=16310&item=137266 "Mr. Miller most recently served as president and COO of Dollar Financial Corp." So, perhaps Lampert sees some positive metrics in the auto business (he should know from his involvement with AN and AZO) and perhaps he'll be keeping that division as one of his companies under the SHLD umbrella? Interesting move bringing in Miller. A financial guy with no automotive experience will lead the transformation. Nice. More Ipads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenaidaMacroura Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Why was shos up so much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matson125 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 General Growth Properties Condference Call from earlier today: http://seekingalpha.com/article/1992861-general-growth-properties-inc-management-discusses-q4-2013-results-earnings-call-transcript?part=single Cedrik Lachance - Green Street Advisors, Inc., Research Division And maybe just a follow-up on that. How comfortable are you with -- in particular with Sears actually moving along by itself and bringing new tenants in its space and being the recipient of that brand? Sandeep Lakhmi Mathrani - Chief Executive Officer and Director We've actually seen that done in a few of our malls. Oakbrook in Chicago is one. We actually did not have the room and the space to put in the Pottery Barn Williams-Sonoma. And to me, as I said previously, if they want to spend the capital and bring them in, we're not going to stop them. We think it's an advantage to the mall to have that end of the mall anchored by the higher-productive tenants. And personally, that could help Sears drive traffic into their stores. And so as I said on Friday at a podcast that I'm not going to bet against any landlord who's incredibly right. He was at the forefront of actually making his stores technologically advanced. And I believe [indiscernible] tell you who's going to win the battle 5, 10 years from today when you take e-commerce into the equation and you marry that with bricks and mortar. So I'm not against them doing that. I prefer doing it myself, but I'm not against doing it. And don't forget, if they do come and RE has required our approval and we consent to them because we think it's the right thing for the mall. Did anyone see a press release on this one? The Pottery Barn was open September 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wellmont Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Why was shos up so much? flight to safety? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazeenyc Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 General Growth Properties Condference Call from earlier today: http://seekingalpha.com/article/1992861-general-growth-properties-inc-management-discusses-q4-2013-results-earnings-call-transcript?part=single Cedrik Lachance - Green Street Advisors, Inc., Research Division And maybe just a follow-up on that. How comfortable are you with -- in particular with Sears actually moving along by itself and bringing new tenants in its space and being the recipient of that brand? Sandeep Lakhmi Mathrani - Chief Executive Officer and Director We've actually seen that done in a few of our malls. Oakbrook in Chicago is one. We actually did not have the room and the space to put in the Pottery Barn Williams-Sonoma. And to me, as I said previously, if they want to spend the capital and bring them in, we're not going to stop them. We think it's an advantage to the mall to have that end of the mall anchored by the higher-productive tenants. And personally, that could help Sears drive traffic into their stores. And so as I said on Friday at a podcast that I'm not going to bet against any landlord who's incredibly right. He was at the forefront of actually making his stores technologically advanced. And I believe [indiscernible] tell you who's going to win the battle 5, 10 years from today when you take e-commerce into the equation and you marry that with bricks and mortar. So I'm not against them doing that. I prefer doing it myself, but I'm not against doing it. And don't forget, if they do come and RE has required our approval and we consent to them because we think it's the right thing for the mall. Did anyone see a press release on this one? The Pottery Barn was open September 2013. I read that myself. No did not see a press release. He said : We've actually seen that done in a few of our malls. Sears is definitely doing this on the sly. Also in the call : Columbiana closing GGP bought the space back -- according to the news it was the "lease not renewed". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 532 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Cedrik Lachance - Green Street Advisors, Inc., Research Division And maybe just a follow-up on that. How comfortable are you with -- in particular with Sears actually moving along by itself and bringing new tenants in its space and being the recipient of that brand? I thought Green Street sounded familiar. Sure enough (document attached)... Can someone explain why most of the articles written about the Baker Street report say that they were unwilling to disclose their real estate appraisers when they list "Green Street Advisors" in their presentation? (I'm referring to page 56...) I have a PDF version of Baker Street's presentation but I do not see "Green Street Advisors" listed on page 56 or anywhere else. Could you upload a copy of the presentation you're looking at? Thanks. It's in the attachment page to my previous post. Bottom of the page. Very strange. See page 56 of the attached PDF. It only shows "Baker Street Analysis" as their source, yet the attachment on your recent post shows "Baker Street Analysis and Green Street Advisors." SHLD_-_Baker_Street_Green_Street_real_estate_appraisal.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenaidaMacroura Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 General Growth Properties Condference Call from earlier today: http://seekingalpha.com/article/1992861-general-growth-properties-inc-management-discusses-q4-2013-results-earnings-call-transcript?part=single Cedrik Lachance - Green Street Advisors, Inc., Research Division And maybe just a follow-up on that. How comfortable are you with -- in particular with Sears actually moving along by itself and bringing new tenants in its space and being the recipient of that brand? Sandeep Lakhmi Mathrani - Chief Executive Officer and Director We've actually seen that done in a few of our malls. Oakbrook in Chicago is one. We actually did not have the room and the space to put in the Pottery Barn Williams-Sonoma. And to me, as I said previously, if they want to spend the capital and bring them in, we're not going to stop them. We think it's an advantage to the mall to have that end of the mall anchored by the higher-productive tenants. And personally, that could help Sears drive traffic into their stores. And so as I said on Friday at a podcast that I'm not going to bet against any landlord who's incredibly right. He was at the forefront of actually making his stores technologically advanced. And I believe [indiscernible] tell you who's going to win the battle 5, 10 years from today when you take e-commerce into the equation and you marry that with bricks and mortar. So I'm not against them doing that. I prefer doing it myself, but I'm not against doing it. And don't forget, if they do come and RE has required our approval and we consent to them because we think it's the right thing for the mall. Did anyone see a press release on this one? The Pottery Barn was open September 2013. That strikes me as rather substantial that shld gets such a nod from ggp and that they recognize what he's striving for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoch01 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 General Growth Properties Condference Call from earlier today: http://seekingalpha.com/article/1992861-general-growth-properties-inc-management-discusses-q4-2013-results-earnings-call-transcript?part=single Cedrik Lachance - Green Street Advisors, Inc., Research Division And maybe just a follow-up on that. How comfortable are you with -- in particular with Sears actually moving along by itself and bringing new tenants in its space and being the recipient of that brand? Sandeep Lakhmi Mathrani - Chief Executive Officer and Director We've actually seen that done in a few of our malls. Oakbrook in Chicago is one. We actually did not have the room and the space to put in the Pottery Barn Williams-Sonoma. And to me, as I said previously, if they want to spend the capital and bring them in, we're not going to stop them. We think it's an advantage to the mall to have that end of the mall anchored by the higher-productive tenants. And personally, that could help Sears drive traffic into their stores. And so as I said on Friday at a podcast that I'm not going to bet against any landlord who's incredibly right. He was at the forefront of actually making his stores technologically advanced. And I believe [indiscernible] tell you who's going to win the battle 5, 10 years from today when you take e-commerce into the equation and you marry that with bricks and mortar. So I'm not against them doing that. I prefer doing it myself, but I'm not against doing it. And don't forget, if they do come and RE has required our approval and we consent to them because we think it's the right thing for the mall. Did anyone see a press release on this one? The Pottery Barn was open September 2013. That strikes me as rather substantial that shld gets such a nod from ggp and that they recognize what he's striving for... Weird. This doesn't fit the narrative that Lampert is a clueless executive who doesn't understand the first thing about retail or running a business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubsfan Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 General Growth Properties Condference Call from earlier today: http://seekingalpha.com/article/1992861-general-growth-properties-inc-management-discusses-q4-2013-results-earnings-call-transcript?part=single Cedrik Lachance - Green Street Advisors, Inc., Research Division And maybe just a follow-up on that. How comfortable are you with -- in particular with Sears actually moving along by itself and bringing new tenants in its space and being the recipient of that brand? Sandeep Lakhmi Mathrani - Chief Executive Officer and Director We've actually seen that done in a few of our malls. Oakbrook in Chicago is one. We actually did not have the room and the space to put in the Pottery Barn Williams-Sonoma. And to me, as I said previously, if they want to spend the capital and bring them in, we're not going to stop them. We think it's an advantage to the mall to have that end of the mall anchored by the higher-productive tenants. And personally, that could help Sears drive traffic into their stores. And so as I said on Friday at a podcast that I'm not going to bet against any landlord who's incredibly right. He was at the forefront of actually making his stores technologically advanced. And I believe [indiscernible] tell you who's going to win the battle 5, 10 years from today when you take e-commerce into the equation and you marry that with bricks and mortar. So I'm not against them doing that. I prefer doing it myself, but I'm not against doing it. And don't forget, if they do come and RE has required our approval and we consent to them because we think it's the right thing for the mall. Did anyone see a press release on this one? The Pottery Barn was open September 2013. That strikes me as rather substantial that shld gets such a nod from ggp and that they recognize what he's striving for... I live 10 miles from Oak Brook. I would think that mall is the highest grossing retail mall in Chicagoland. It's always jam packed and if Sears wanted to sublease or sell their lease - it would go for a great price. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 532 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Weird. This doesn't fit the narrative that Lampert is a clueless executive who doesn't understand the first thing about retail or running a business. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTShine Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I noticed something interesting just now. On the GGP conference call, they were asked about Sears 'recaptures' and said... "Do we recapture them based upon demand? Yes. I mean, recently, we bought back the Sears box in Columbiana mall to expand a Belk into the space. So we are proactive at it when we see the need arise to recapture space." So, they said they bought back this space. But, how did Sears describe this when asked about the store closing? WISTV started their article on the closing by saying "The Sears store and Auto Center at Columbiana Centre will close in early March because the lease was not renewed, according to a release from the company." http://www.wistv.com/story/24409407/sears-at-columbiana-centre-to-close-lease-not-renewed I wonder how many leases are "not renewed" in return for some type of payment from the landlord. Probably not enough to be matierial to the stock, otherwise they'd announce it in a filing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazeenyc Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 When Sears says lease not renewed -- it just means they're leaving. The Oakbrook Center Store is definitely owned by Sears, in fact they own a bunch of the land there. In 2012 they did a ground lease with pinstripes (the bowling/dining concept) for 3.7 acres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmichaud Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Page 18 of the GGP CC: "You've just made an assumption that JCP was not going to be around, which is not true in my opinion. In my opinion, 5, 10 years from today, JCP will defy the retail landscape. Will they shudder some stores? Yes. And the users of those stores are restaurants, big boxes as in the big sporting goods, the lifestyle tenants.... "So in out portfolio, we actually think that if we got those boxes back, they would be an advantage....So you could see how when you own an A or B mall...that recapturing these would be a complete bonanza for the mall owners. "So firstly, I think the uses are tremendous. The demand is tremendous. We have no place to put the bigger box users, the H&M, the Zaras of the world....So this could be a tremendous home run for the mall industry. But we don't anticipate getting any of them back to speak of." Page 19: "We had I think 76 empty boxes in 2011 and we have 7 left." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmichaud Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Here is the corrected version of the quote I posted last night (much clearer now): Firstly, you've just made an assumption that jcpenney is not going to be around, which is not true in my opinion. In my opinion, 5 years, 10 years from today, jcpenney will be part of the retail landscape. Will they shutter some stores? Yes. And the obvious [ph] users for (50:15) that stores are restaurant, big boxes, the DICK'S Sporting Goods, the lifestyle tenants, [ph] if you care to go on a trip to a (50:25) lifestyle center. So in our portfolio, we [ph] actually think if (50:30) we got these boxes back, they would be an advantage. [ph] These appreciate, (50:34) I think at Sears pays $2 a square foot in our portfolio, and I think jcpenney pays $3 a square foot in our portfolio, average size of about 200,000 feet [square feet]. So you could see how when you own an A or a B+ mall, or even a B mall for that matter, that recapturing these would be a complete bonanza for the mall owners. So firstly, I think [ph] the uses (50:58) are tremendous. The demand is tremendous. We have no place to put the bigger box users, the H&Ms, the ZARAs of the world, the Anthropologies, the Urban Outfitters, anyone which is larger format, the DICK'S Sporting Goods, then this makes a perfect position for us to tear the box down and add on a [ph] clip-on (51:17) with all those of types of tenants. So this could be a tremendous homerun for the mall industry. But we don't anticipate getting any of them back to speak of.GGP_4Q13_CC.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 532 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Here is the corrected version of the quote I posted last night (much clearer now): Firstly, you've just made an assumption that jcpenney is not going to be around, which is not true in my opinion. In my opinion, 5 years, 10 years from today, jcpenney will be part of the retail landscape. Will they shutter some stores? Yes. And the obvious [ph] users for (50:15) that stores are restaurant, big boxes, the DICK'S Sporting Goods, the lifestyle tenants, [ph] if you care to go on a trip to a (50:25) lifestyle center. So in our portfolio, we [ph] actually think if (50:30) we got these boxes back, they would be an advantage. [ph] These appreciate, (50:34) I think at Sears pays $2 a square foot in our portfolio, and I think jcpenney pays $3 a square foot in our portfolio, average size of about 200,000 feet [square feet]. So you could see how when you own an A or a B+ mall, or even a B mall for that matter, that recapturing these would be a complete bonanza for the mall owners. So firstly, I think [ph] the uses (50:58) are tremendous. The demand is tremendous. We have no place to put the bigger box users, the H&Ms, the ZARAs of the world, the Anthropologies, the Urban Outfitters, anyone which is larger format, the DICK'S Sporting Goods, then this makes a perfect position for us to tear the box down and add on a [ph] clip-on (51:17) with all those of types of tenants. So this could be a tremendous homerun for the mall industry. But we don't anticipate getting any of them back to speak of. Consistent with comments these guys were making previously as seen on pages 25-32 of the Baker St report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr33ngi4nt Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/860585/000118143114005121/xslF345X03/rrd400970.xml Form 4 - Lampert getting more shares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazeenyc Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/860585/000118143114005121/xslF345X03/rrd400970.xml Form 4 - Lampert getting more shares. This is part of his compensation as CEO/Chairman. (he gets them for $0.00 every month). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20ppy Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/sears-holdings-names-mark-panzer-190200825.html Sears Holdings Names Mark Panzer to Lead Pharmacy Business Unit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 532 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/sears-holdings-names-mark-panzer-190200825.html Sears Holdings Names Mark Panzer to Lead Pharmacy Business Unit Two hires in past two days - perhaps we're getting more of an idea in which business units Lampert sees value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCG Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Sears has a Pharmacy business? Is there a less focused business than Sears? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdom Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Hoping for sub $30 - hoping to make it a 25%+ position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 532 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Sears has a Pharmacy business? SHLD's loans are secured by "inventory, credit card and pharmacy receivables" found in First Amendment to Second Amended and Restated Credit Agreement: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1310067/000119312513388338/d606678dex101.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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