Mephistopheles Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 I wrote some WFC 48-strike May 17 puts. Boilermaker, why you don’t short longer term put, say 1 year? The put premium will be taxed at long term capital gain and there is a higher chance it will expire worthless. The premium is higher if the date is very short? Also, if you are doing this in an IRA or 401K account, then the tax is not so much of a consideration? I use Merrill edge which doesn’t allow naked put writing in IRAs. Is this allowed with any other broker ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfp Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Yes, several brokers allow this in an IRA, but the puts are required to be “cash covered” or whatever you call it - so not really “naked” like a naked call sale would be. In reality it is basically identical to a limit buy order on the underlying- not too exotic for a retirement account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aws Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 I wrote some WFC 48-strike May 17 puts. Boilermaker, why you don’t short longer term put, say 1 year? The put premium will be taxed at long term capital gain and there is a higher chance it will expire worthless. Short options are never LTCG regardless of the duration if they expire worthless. Nor short anything for that matter, as your purchase date is always considered the same as the sale date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boilermaker75 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 I wrote some WFC 48-strike May 17 puts. Boilermaker, why you don’t short longer term put, say 1 year? The put premium will be taxed at long term capital gain and there is a higher chance it will expire worthless. The premium is higher if the date is very short? Also, if you are doing this in an IRA or 401K account, then the tax is not so much of a consideration? Exactly, there is a rapid decay of the time premiums with a shorter term put. So typically my time to expiration is between 1-day and 2-months. Edit: But 90% of the time when I write a put the expiration is less than a month away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boilermaker75 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Yes, several brokers allow this in an IRA, but the puts are required to be “cash covered” or whatever you call it - so not really “naked” like a naked call sale would be. In reality it is basically identical to a limit buy order on the underlying- not too exotic for a retirement account My IRA is with Schwab and they allow writing cash-covered puts. It is exactly the same as writing a covered call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boilermaker75 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Wrote BAC 30-strike May 10 expiration puts for $0.26 per share and May 17 expiration puts for $0.41 per share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardboard Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 T-MEG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkbabang Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Yes, several brokers allow this in an IRA, but the puts are required to be “cash covered” or whatever you call it - so not really “naked” like a naked call sale would be. In reality it is basically identical to a limit buy order on the underlying- not too exotic for a retirement account My IRA is with Schwab and they allow writing cash-covered puts. It is exactly the same as writing a covered call. I write cash covered puts in both my IRA and 401K with Fidelity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longlake95 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Linamar - LNR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 M - Macy's, Inc. Thanks Lance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakesider Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Sold out relatively large position in PBY:GR bought a little STNE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregmal Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Little bit of CWH. Purely a bounce trade. The business can be fixed and there is definitely enough hedgefund bagholders in this that I would not at all be surprised to see someone file a 13D on Lemonis; if nothing else, but for the free publicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spekulatius Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Added to DWDP. I believe the company trades at a substantial discount to the value of the sum of parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregmal Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 CLF calls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boilermaker75 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Wrote BAC 30-strike May 10 expiration puts for $0.26 per share and May 17 expiration puts for $0.41 per share. I got put to on my May 10 BAC puts. I already have a LTBH position in BAC, my third largest holding. So this put sale was strictly a trade. At the close on Friday I sold May 24 expiration 30 strike calls for $0.33 per share on these shares I was put to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spekulatius Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 DWDP and GOOG. I love the smell of Napalm in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregmal Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 More CLF, CRSP, EDIT, AAL, started MPC, bid in for CTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 AOS, GWW and MMM Thanks Lance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigarbutt Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 More CLF, CRSP, EDIT, AAL, started MPC, bid in for CTO I can't figure out how to make money with CRSP and EDIT but found the following useful as it covers (the basics) the playing field. https://www.cbinsights.com/research/what-is-crispr/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregmal Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 More CLF, CRSP, EDIT, AAL, started MPC, bid in for CTO I can't figure out how to make money with CRSP and EDIT but found the following useful as it covers (the basics) the playing field. https://www.cbinsights.com/research/what-is-crispr/ Thanks. Its tough, and really nobody knows for certain with anything in these fields, but its also something very unique and for me at least, a worthwhile speculative allocation. There are winner take all elements to this and of the three public options, I've only really been able to determine a couple things for sure. CRSP will be first to market, EDIT has the strongest and most diverse patent portfolio and will be second to market, and NTLA is basically behind everyone in both cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cherzeca Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 anyone sniffing aapl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spekulatius Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 More CLF, CRSP, EDIT, AAL, started MPC, bid in for CTO MPC is quite interesting from a value POV. Their cash flows that can be used for buybacks or dividends exceed their earnings due to the cash stream from the MLPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfMeasure Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 anyone sniffing aapl? Not yet, would like to see it lower given the app store news. Do you have a view on the app store antitrust concerns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregmal Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 More CLF, CRSP, EDIT, AAL, started MPC, bid in for CTO MPC is quite interesting from a value POV. Their cash flows that can be used for buybacks or dividends exceed their earnings due to the cash stream from the MLPs. Twas the toast of the town, best of breed, sector champion maybe a year ago...now its poo poo. I don't see much that has changed to warrant such sentiment shift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 M - Macy's, Inc. Thanks Lance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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