wescobrk Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Eric, Just curious if there is anything about your model S that you don't like? I'd like to be a shareholder at some point. Musk is amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merkhet Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 So I was reading this month's Fortune, and it had a blurb about a new battery manufacturer. It occurs to me that the traditional risk that Tesla's batteries get leapfrogged because of the fact that newer or better technology comes online might be a little overblown. Might there be some path-dependency and/or lock-in the way that QWERTY keyboards beat Dvorak keyboards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkbabang Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 So I was reading this month's Fortune, and it had a blurb about a new battery manufacturer. It occurs to me that the traditional risk that Tesla's batteries get leapfrogged because of the fact that newer or better technology comes online might be a little overblown. Might there be some path-dependency and/or lock-in the way that QWERTY keyboards beat Dvorak keyboards? There might be some resistance, but not as much as with keyboards. Once you can type 30-60 wpm, learning a new keyboard layout is a lot of work for not much gain. You'd do it if it meant being able to type 500 wpm though. If a new battery technology exists that can give significantly more range and be just as durable and long lasting I think it will be adopted by the industry. Including TSLA. I'm sure it would be cheaper in the long run to re-tool the factory to produce the new type of battery than it would be to stick with the old type and be behind the rest of the industry. I don't think that this is much of a threat, because battery technology doesn't move very fast. A new technology would not only have to hold more charge, but it would have to be as durable (cars take a beating), as safe, work at extreme temperatures (both Alaska and Arizona), be as long lasting, and as inexpensive. Those are a lot of ifs, a battery working in a lab setting is very different from a mature automotive grade product. TSLA will get 10 good years out of its factory even if a new battery technology is discovered today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Eric, Just curious if there is anything about your model S that you don't like? I'd like to be a shareholder at some point. Musk is amazing! The automatic raising and lowering has been imperfect. I've had it lower the nose onto the top of a parking block -- I hear it scrape when I come back to the car after shopping and reverse. They have introduced some bugs during their various software updates, but the symptoms are easy to notice and easy to cure. I find that if I just reboot the cars computer the symptoms vanish. The symptom was that the GPS navigation system started to malfunction. There are two buttons on the steering wheel that you simultaneously press down and hold down for a while -- then it reboots. But it doesn't affect the driving of the car when the computer goes berzerk -- just the utility of the GPS. I've had the whole computer screen freeze up too. So it's kind of like having an Apple product. You reboot it and it fixes the issue. I've also worn out the high performance tires relatively quickly and they are expensive -- they slip a bit more now. And the interior is nice, but it isn't a luxury-car grade interior. The driving however is far superior -- I love the "single peddle" driving... so simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareastwarriors Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Tesla's China Challenge: Getting Chargers Installed Tesla Has Big China Ambitions but First Must Win Over Charger Skeptics http://online.wsj.com/articles/teslas-challenge-in-china-getting-its-chargers-installed-1411936037?mod=Business_newsreel_5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkbabang Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 "The D" is coming. Tesla CEO teases 'the D' and 'something else' on Twitter http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/02/1412241525227_wps_11_ELon_1_PNG.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palantir Posted October 2, 2014 Author Share Posted October 2, 2014 ^I can't wait to see the D. ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkbabang Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 ^I can't wait to see the D. ;D He's going to expose it on the 9th. I supposed it is expected that you can't have S ||| X without The D. Best Headline goes to AP: "Tesla rises as Musk tweets about the D" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYDemaray Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Someone on the internets was speculating that they might be shifting do a dealership model. I have no idea of the plausibility of this (maybe for select markets)? But could be an interesting capital raising vehicle for the company...selling franchises, that is. Might also help them scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkbabang Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Someone on the internets was speculating that they might be shifting do a dealership model. I have no idea of the plausibility of this (maybe for select markets)? But could be an interesting capital raising vehicle for the company...selling franchises, that is. Might also help them scale. That would be switching from a more efficient model to an outdated less efficient model purely for political reasons. I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wescobrk Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Another very clever move. Free advertising for 9 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palantir Posted October 2, 2014 Author Share Posted October 2, 2014 Someone on the internets was speculating that they might be shifting do a dealership model. I have no idea of the plausibility of this (maybe for select markets)? But could be an interesting capital raising vehicle for the company...selling franchises, that is. Might also help them scale. That would be switching from a more efficient model to an outdated less efficient model purely for political reasons. I hope not. They could do a dealer sort of as a franchisee...Tesla only dealers etc with the dealer being a total shell entity just to get around the loophole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 "D" All wheel drive Model S. Dual-motor / Dual-drive It's standard on Model X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYDemaray Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 "D" All wheel drive Model S. Dual-motor / Dual-drive It's standard on Model X Eric's got the right right idea...why would they tease a structural business move? Has to be a feature/consumer angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkbabang Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 "D" All wheel drive Model S. Dual-motor / Dual-drive It's standard on Model X Eric's got the right right idea...why would they tease a structural business move? Has to be a feature/consumer angle. The graphic says "unveil the D" with a garage door going up and a vehicle behind it. It is pretty obvious that there is going to be a Model D. Probably a Model P as well, based on the fact that he said "Glad I didn't mention the other letter!" and the "something else". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenville Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 "D" All wheel drive Model S. Dual-motor / Dual-drive It's standard on Model X Eric's got the right right idea...why would they tease a structural business move? Has to be a feature/consumer angle. The graphic says "unveil the D" with a garage door going up and a vehicle behind it. It is pretty obvious that there is going to be a Model D. Probably a Model P as well, based on the fact that he said "Glad I didn't mention the other letter!" and the "something else". Not sure why it can't be a variation on model s like a model sd, like eric described. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBird Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I'm thinking something driverless related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkbabang Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 "D" All wheel drive Model S. Dual-motor / Dual-drive It's standard on Model X Eric's got the right right idea...why would they tease a structural business move? Has to be a feature/consumer angle. The graphic says "unveil the D" with a garage door going up and a vehicle behind it. It is pretty obvious that there is going to be a Model D. Probably a Model P as well, based on the fact that he said "Glad I didn't mention the other letter!" and the "something else". Not sure why it can't be a variation on model s like a model sd, like eric described. It could be, but that is a car, not an announcement that they are opening dealerships. It could also be a new redesigned or updated and rebranded version of the Roadster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYDemaray Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 http://jalopnik.com/musk-says-90-percent-of-tesla-driving-will-be-auto-pilo-1641772543?utm_campaign=socialflow_jalopnik_twitter&utm_source=jalopnik_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBird Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 http://jalopnik.com/musk-says-90-percent-of-tesla-driving-will-be-auto-pilo-1641772543?utm_campaign=socialflow_jalopnik_twitter&utm_source=jalopnik_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow Boom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 http://jalopnik.com/musk-says-90-percent-of-tesla-driving-will-be-auto-pilo-1641772543?utm_campaign=socialflow_jalopnik_twitter&utm_source=jalopnik_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow Boom! This is like buying computers. You are better off to hold off the purchase until the following year (or in my case 2 years). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yadayada Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 So 90% of the time if you don't watch the road, you will not crash. Not sure if i like those odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 So 90% of the time if you don't watch the road, you will not crash. Not sure if i like those odds. Depends how the road is painted. A terrorist could just repaint the highway lanes in the night so that everyone with a self-driving car goes off the cliff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yadayada Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 could be a nice trick for highway diners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treasurehunt Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 The graphic says "unveil the D" with a garage door going up and a vehicle behind it. It is pretty obvious that there is going to be a Model D. Probably a Model P as well, based on the fact that he said "Glad I didn't mention the other letter!" and the "something else". I am going with Eric's guess -- "Dual Drive". The other letter is also D. Imagine if Musk tweeted about revealing a DD. Hence his comment that he is glad he didn't mention the other letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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