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That's proof that a trillion dollars doesn't go as far these days as it used to.

 

When asked if her firm was buying she said "Well we are taking profits to average draw down our position size." I get that, you need to maintain your 10% allocation. But at the same time when you make wild claims like that you should put your money where your mouth is. In fairness she's basically right about her Tesla $1000 call last summer.

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That's proof that a trillion dollars doesn't go as far these days as it used to.

 

When asked if her firm was buying she said "Well we are taking profits to average draw down our position size." I get that, you need to maintain your 10% allocation. But at the same time when you make wild claims like that you should put your money where your mouth is. In fairness she's basically right about her Tesla $1000 call last summer.

 

Thats just how a successful money manager manages the position. Not by shorting it $400 ago and then making excuses.

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Anyway, I will leave you now to continue to invest in the dying dinosaurs of last century like DD and LBTYA with your precise EBITDAs. Back to your entertaining selves, CoBF!

 

Edit: add BA,GM to the mix. BA screwed up the clock on their manned rocket and used third rate programmers for their 737 Max? Who would have thought software would be so important to these companies that grew accustomed to excelling only in the hardware domain?  :o

 

I surrender.?

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I thought Elon said Tesla's are appreciating assets.  Should be worth $250k when FSD is 'feature complete'. 

 

Seriously though, I wonder what a Tesla with a bad battery is worth?  Might be a business opportunity there.  Use the car body for spare parts that are apparently hard to come by, and recycle the battery.

 

If you know what you’re doing you could always use an old Tesla battery for your house. I believe in one of the videos he mentions how much he paid for a used battery.

 

https://www.youtube.com/user/oldmilwaukee100

A great business might be to take the old Teslas and put the battery and maybe the engine (an engineer might better say if that is possible) into a speedboat. If it was possible that would save a lot of money on gas or diesel as electric engines work efficiently at any speed while boat engines work efficiently only at one speed and therefore are inefficent at most speeds used. 

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However, if it's just a canned response to a question in which the CEO does not want to answer, for strategic reasons or otherwise, then I think it's perfectly acceptable. At that point, the decision is choosing between "No, I will not answer that question, next!" vs. "babble babble let me deflect the question." 

 

Agreed, and I prefer CEOs honest/brave enough to choose the former!

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The stock could fall 50% and still be higher than the $420 level that shorts thought was ridiculously high...

 

Obviously the current move isn't sustainable, but also obvious is that this stock isn't predictable. Does it fall back down a lot quickly, a little and stabilizes, melts over years, or Musk pulls other rabbits out of his hat and the market likes it? He raises $10 billion in equity at minimal dilution and has enough cash to derisk things a lot which changes the perceived risk level? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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First investment in months and it's a short on this stock. Way out of reality... Bigger than all other car companies combined?!? Short at $894. Only second short in my investing career and looks like easy money.

 

Long term a fan of what they are doing but don't see this valuation as reasonable.

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First investment in months and it's a short on this stock. Way out of reality... Bigger than all other car companies combined?!? Short at $894. Only second short in my investing career and looks like easy money.

 

Long term a fan of what they are doing but don't see this valuation as reasonable.

What means did you short if you don't mind sharing

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First investment in months and it's a short on this stock. Way out of reality... Bigger than all other car companies combined?!? Short at $894. Only second short in my investing career and looks like easy money.

 

Long term a fan of what they are doing but don't see this valuation as reasonable.

 

“Looks like easy money”

 

Have you seen the headlines?

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First investment in months and it's a short on this stock. Way out of reality... Bigger than all other car companies combined?!? Short at $894. Only second short in my investing career and looks like easy money.

 

Long term a fan of what they are doing but don't see this valuation as reasonable.

 

You're probably more likely right than wrong here but I heard these same arguments at 400, 500, 600, and so on. Who knows it could hit a 1000 before it blows up.

 

Good luck.

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Thanks for the data point Eric - do you mind sharing what you were paying with a traditional insurer, like-for-like ?

 

I switched to Tesla Insurance for my Model S. 

 

Only $104.52/mo for $100k/$300k coverage and 22k miles annually.

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