Spekulatius Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 The highways in Los Angeles are surprisingly shitty for such an affluent area with a perfect climate. I wouldn't be surprised if roads in some of China's major cities are better than LA. I also wouldn't be surprised if they were garbage, either. The roads around Shanghai are certainly better than the roads in most US cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Not sure if it's been noted, but the cars under potential recall were built in Fremont. So tsla has to make this a regional issue or they could see the recall broaden... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Dhandho Investor Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Oh no, a 30,000 car recall! https://www.cars.com/articles/the-10-biggest-recalls-in-2019-416480/ And that is relevant because? Tesla's total cumulative sales surpassed 1 million in May 2020, so in order to get to your list they would basically need to recall every vehicle made since they started doing business. Your post is totally besides the point anyway. The point here is that a company that cares about its customers, like Tesla claims: (1) should have recalled every vehicle that is at risk (not only the ones in China) (2) should have done this when it became aware of the issue (i.e. more than 4 years ago) (3) should have done this on its own initiative - not when a local regulated required them to act upon the issue (4) should take responsibility for its defective vehicles and not blame the customer I'm still in doubt why a smart guy like you continues to defend EM - even on matters where there is no excuse possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Dhandho Investor Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 10 years ahead of the competition, they say... https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/holy-sht-videos-teslas-full-self-driving-beta-are-surfacing-and-theyre-frightening Probably a rhetorical question, but when does the NHTSA act upon this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 10 years ahead of the competition, they say... https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/holy-sht-videos-teslas-full-self-driving-beta-are-surfacing-and-theyre-frightening Probably a rhetorical question, but when does the NHTSA act upon this? The NHTSA won't do anything if they haven't already. We must protect our genius, after all. So much for FSD shadow driving the past 5 years and solving 'edge cases'. Thanks, Elon, for signing up everyone within 100 meters of a Tesla for your beta program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareastwarriors Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 10 years ahead of the competition, they say... https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/holy-sht-videos-teslas-full-self-driving-beta-are-surfacing-and-theyre-frightening Probably a rhetorical question, but when does the NHTSA act upon this? The NHTSA won't do anything if they haven't already. We must protect our genius, after all. So much for FSD shadow driving the past 5 years and solving 'edge cases'. Thanks, Elon, for signing up everyone within 100 meters of a Tesla for your beta program. Still waiting on my update! If you don't hear from me, you know what happened... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkbabang Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 10 years ahead of the competition, they say... https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/holy-sht-videos-teslas-full-self-driving-beta-are-surfacing-and-theyre-frightening Probably a rhetorical question, but when does the NHTSA act upon this? The NHTSA won't do anything if they haven't already. We must protect our genius, after all. So much for FSD shadow driving the past 5 years and solving 'edge cases'. Thanks, Elon, for signing up everyone within 100 meters of a Tesla for your beta program. Still waiting on my update! If you don't hear from me, you know what happened... I was just thinking that this will make it much easier for Musk to assassinate people. I hope you've never said anything Musk wouldn't like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareastwarriors Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 10 years ahead of the competition, they say... https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/holy-sht-videos-teslas-full-self-driving-beta-are-surfacing-and-theyre-frightening Probably a rhetorical question, but when does the NHTSA act upon this? The NHTSA won't do anything if they haven't already. We must protect our genius, after all. So much for FSD shadow driving the past 5 years and solving 'edge cases'. Thanks, Elon, for signing up everyone within 100 meters of a Tesla for your beta program. Still waiting on my update! If you don't hear from me, you know what happened... I was just thinking that this will make it much easier for Musk to assassinate people. I hope you've never said anything Musk wouldn't like. Nope, I'm a fanboy. Even though I do think the stock "valuation" is absolutely ludicrous. I can't comprehend it or even try to anymore. Then again I can't argue with my gains. A fun money investment turned into real serious money due to the stock's relentless rise . Thanks Elon ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgis Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 FSD beta is really impressive: Yeah, there are kinks, but a lot of things are working great. And the kinks are mostly about car being too slow to turn or accelerate, which may be annoying for people behind you, but not really risking an accident. FSD of course is misnomer: as it is, you have to expect disengagement once per ride or more. Still very impressive. I'm back in the "I'm gonna buy a Tesla" camp especially if/when they release FSD to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Oh no, a 30,000 car recall! https://www.cars.com/articles/the-10-biggest-recalls-in-2019-416480/ Doesn't 30k recall represent nearly 100% of the cars they sold in China in that time period? It would only be about 10% for GM's worst recall. Either way, the fix isn't particularly expensive. I'm very curious if this stays contained to China. I'm saying recalls are nothing out of the ordinary, and I'm surprised there weren't more for the early cars made in 2012-2013-2014... The company is basically a startup at that point, it's amazing that the Model S was as good as it was right out of the gate in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschembs Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Oh no, a 30,000 car recall! https://www.cars.com/articles/the-10-biggest-recalls-in-2019-416480/ Doesn't 30k recall represent nearly 100% of the cars they sold in China in that time period? It would only be about 10% for GM's worst recall. Either way, the fix isn't particularly expensive. I'm very curious if this stays contained to China. I'm saying recalls are nothing out of the ordinary, and I'm surprised there weren't more for the early cars made in 2012-2013-2014... The company is basically a startup at that point, it's amazing that the Model S was as good as it was right out of the gate in 2012. Would generally agree with this, but obviously important to differentiate Subaru recalling 1.3 mm cars for "contaminants in common household products such as cosmetics, fabric softener and car polish that could cause a brakelight switch malfunction" vs faulty suspensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castanza Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 10 years ahead of the competition, they say... https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/holy-sht-videos-teslas-full-self-driving-beta-are-surfacing-and-theyre-frightening Probably a rhetorical question, but when does the NHTSA act upon this? The NHTSA won't do anything if they haven't already. We must protect our genius, after all. So much for FSD shadow driving the past 5 years and solving 'edge cases'. Thanks, Elon, for signing up everyone within 100 meters of a Tesla for your beta program. Cant help but laugh at the new ratio being used to judge effectiveness of Autonomous software... Miles to Accidents ratio ;D Can't wait to hear what the industry standard will be? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkbabang Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 10 years ahead of the competition, they say... https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/holy-sht-videos-teslas-full-self-driving-beta-are-surfacing-and-theyre-frightening Probably a rhetorical question, but when does the NHTSA act upon this? The NHTSA won't do anything if they haven't already. We must protect our genius, after all. So much for FSD shadow driving the past 5 years and solving 'edge cases'. Thanks, Elon, for signing up everyone within 100 meters of a Tesla for your beta program. Cant help but laugh at the new ratio being used to judge effectiveness of Autonomous software... Miles to Accidents ratio ;D Can't wait to hear what the industry standard will be? LOL As long as it's better than human drivers, it will be an improvement. I can't find the numbers for accidents per miles driven, but I can find the numbers for deaths per miles driven. For 2016 it was 1.25 deaths per 100 million vehicle miles traveled or 12.5 deaths per billion vehicle miles traveled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Would generally agree with this, but obviously important to differentiate Subaru recalling 1.3 mm cars for "contaminants in common household products such as cosmetics, fabric softener and car polish that could cause a brakelight switch malfunction" vs faulty suspensions. Yeah. There's been plenty of all kinds of recalls all around the industry. Cherry picking an example doesn't illuminate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Dhandho Investor Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 FSD beta is really impressive: Yeah, there are kinks, but a lot of things are working great. And the kinks are mostly about car being too slow to turn or accelerate, which may be annoying for people behind you, but not really risking an accident. FSD of course is misnomer: as it is, you have to expect disengagement once per ride or more. Still very impressive. I'm back in the "I'm gonna buy a Tesla" camp especially if/when they release FSD to everyone. Not everyone seems convinced: https://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/tesla-beta-testing-full-self-driving-system-worries-drivers-pedestrians-n1244787 “It’s actually not full self-driving (and) I’m getting a little skeptical” Tesla will ever deliver what it promised, Jim Alvrus from Huntsville, Alabama, told NBC News. He bought two Model X electric SUVs for his family specifically because he expected to be able to operate them completely hands-free. “I find (FSD) terrifying,” said Bill McGuire, who purchased a Tesla Model 3 in early September. He has serious concerns about the technology and the way he feels Tesla is promoting it, telling NBC News he feels "the branding is a lie, or at least a complete contradiction” because it actually can’t be driven without close human supervision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareastwarriors Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 FSD beta is really impressive: Yeah, there are kinks, but a lot of things are working great. And the kinks are mostly about car being too slow to turn or accelerate, which may be annoying for people behind you, but not really risking an accident. FSD of course is misnomer: as it is, you have to expect disengagement once per ride or more. Still very impressive. I'm back in the "I'm gonna buy a Tesla" camp especially if/when they release FSD to everyone. Not everyone seems convinced: https://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/tesla-beta-testing-full-self-driving-system-worries-drivers-pedestrians-n1244787 “It’s actually not full self-driving (and) I’m getting a little skeptical” Tesla will ever deliver what it promised, Jim Alvrus from Huntsville, Alabama, told NBC News. He bought two Model X electric SUVs for his family specifically because he expected to be able to operate them completely hands-free. “I find (FSD) terrifying,” said Bill McGuire, who purchased a Tesla Model 3 in early September. He has serious concerns about the technology and the way he feels Tesla is promoting it, telling NBC News he feels "the branding is a lie, or at least a complete contradiction” because it actually can’t be driven without close human supervision. He bought 2 $100k cars on what, a whim? Baller. 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Dhandho Investor Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 He bought 2 $100k cars on what, a whim? Baller. 8) Yeah, what an idea :o. I'm interested to know more about your reflections when you have access to the beta version. It appears he should have bought a GM vehicle: https://www.reuters.com/article/autos-selfdriving-safety/tesla-autopilot-a-distant-second-to-gms-super-cruise-in-hands-free-test-consumer-reports-idUSL1N2HI2O6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareastwarriors Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Honda Joins Fiat in Paying Tesla for Europe C02 Compliance ... It’s unclear how much money Honda is paying to join a pool populated by Tesla’s all-electric fleet. Selling regulatory credits to other carmakers has been a boon to the Model 3 maker, bringing in almost $1.2 billion of revenue this year. ... Fiat Chrysler Chief Executive Officer Mike Manley told analysts during an Oct. 28 earnings call that the company was locked into an agreement to pay Tesla through next year for its help meeting emissions standards. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-02/honda-joins-fiat-in-tapping-tesla-for-europe-emission-compliance Potentially nice additional high margin revenue. Though likely a lot smaller than what Fiat paid since Honda is a much smaller player in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkbabang Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 One of the Terms of Service For Starlink is that You “Recognize Mars as a Free Planet” https://www.universetoday.com/148733/one-of-the-terms-of-service-for-starlink-is-that-you-recognize-mars-as-a-free-planet/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkbabang Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Tesla Will Join S&P 500 in December as Largest-Ever New Member https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-16/tesla-tsla-to-join-s-p-500-index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 One of the Terms of Service For Starlink is that You “Recognize Mars as a Free Planet” https://www.universetoday.com/148733/one-of-the-terms-of-service-for-starlink-is-that-you-recognize-mars-as-a-free-planet/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Tesla Will Join S&P 500 in December as Largest-Ever New Member https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-16/tesla-tsla-to-join-s-p-500-index Up 13% after hours... As someone recently reminded me of, it's not because something is supposed to be priced in that it can't be priced in twice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalal.Holdings Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I love this: Tesla Hits Highest Since September After Morgan Stanley Says Buy https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-18/morgan-stanley-turns-bullish-on-tesla-for-first-time-since-2017 Morgan Stanley gave Tesla Inc. an overweight rating for the first time in more than three years, predicting that Elon Musk’s firm is on the verge of a “profound model shift” from selling cars to generating high-margin software and services revenue. “To only value Tesla on car sales alone ignores the multiple businesses embedded within the company,” analyst Adam Jonas wrote in a note as he upgraded the shares from equal-weight and raised his price target by 50% to $540. 3 years ago the stock was about 1/8 of what it is now... Adam Jonas may have ironically just signaled the top for TSLA...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Investmentacct Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Thank God, Internet has memory. It's about 1 & 1/2 year ( May 21, 2019) https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/21/morgan-stanley-tesla-shares-could-drop-to-10-in-worst-case-scenario.html In Today's Share price comparing with prior to 1:5 split; Adam Jonas new target (540$) converts to 2700 USD. Great work: 10$ to 2700$ I love this: Tesla Hits Highest Since September After Morgan Stanley Says Buy https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-18/morgan-stanley-turns-bullish-on-tesla-for-first-time-since-2017 Morgan Stanley gave Tesla Inc. an overweight rating for the first time in more than three years, predicting that Elon Musk’s firm is on the verge of a “profound model shift” from selling cars to generating high-margin software and services revenue. “To only value Tesla on car sales alone ignores the multiple businesses embedded within the company,” analyst Adam Jonas wrote in a note as he upgraded the shares from equal-weight and raised his price target by 50% to $540. 3 years ago the stock was about 1/8 of what it is now... Adam Jonas may have ironically just signaled the top for TSLA...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 https://electrek.co/2020/11/18/tesla-tsla-surges-record-high-mysterious-investor-buying-big/ "Even Warren Buffett is rumored to be buying into Tesla." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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