rmitz Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Malls are private property so how long before stores and restaurants at malls set up a Tesla Valet service to attract wealthy customers? Perhaps this makes malls property more valuable? Why stop there. Why not set up a Tesla Town by building an entire city on private property? Here's the hypo: You "hand over" your Tesla to the valet service. It goes to park the car in a Tesla-only area. A 12 year old skateboarding in the parking structure flies in front of the Model S, gets hit, and dies. The kid's parents sue you for negligent operation (just because traffic laws don't apply doesn't mean you aren't responsible for safe operation). They sue Tesla for deploying defective software. And they sue the mall for not doing enough to prevent children from skateboarding in the parking lot. Which lawsuits go the distance, which get tossed, and which end up with a big judgment? I don't think anybody really knows. And as long as the Malls think there is any chance they're going to get hit with some plausible lawsuit, I don't think the payoff to having the valet service is going to be attractive to them. One of the advantages of having a computer drive is that they aren't going to be impatient. Thus, they can drive to their spots...very slowly, even though they'd be capable of much more. This mitigates the risk so much that even if a car hit someone, at 5mph nothing much is going to happen. This will also allow for much data to be gathered and will get people used to the idea over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Here's the hypo: And they sue the mall for not doing enough to prevent children from skateboarding in the parking lot. Which lawsuits go the distance, which get tossed, and which end up with a big judgment? I don't think anybody really knows. And as long as the Malls think there is any chance they're going to get hit with some plausible lawsuit, I don't think the payoff to having the valet service is going to be attractive to them. But cars are currently allowed in mall parking lots. Despite the skateboarding lawsuit risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yadayada Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I think the issue is not that you can get sued, but who gets sued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I think the issue is not that you can get sued, but who gets sued. In the case of the mall, it's the same liability if the issue is whether they should have been preventing skateboarding (which is exactly the issue at hand in the post I replied to). Liability for the mall operator may actually be lower if driverless has less chance of incident -- you don't have texting drivers at the wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkbabang Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Don't even mention Tesla in Michigan, the violent gang who controls that area doesn't want to hear about it on their turf. "they create an effective prohibition against Tesla opening a store in Michigan. This amendment goes even further. It also seeks to prevent Tesla from operating a gallery in Michigan that simply provides information without conducting sales. We could even be barred from telling people about our car." A Raw Deal in Michigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareastwarriors Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Daimler Sells Stake in Tesla, Work on Electric Cars to Continue http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-21/daimler-sells-stake-in-tesla-work-on-electric-cars-to-continue.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkbabang Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Ford CEO: "We could produce a great car, but we just don't feel like it". Yeah, okay. If you say so. Ford CEO: We have expertise to do Tesla-like vehicle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareastwarriors Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Tesla Unveils Lower-Cost Lease Program Electric-Car Maker Looks to Lift Sagging U.S. Sales Through New Incentives http://online.wsj.com/articles/tesla-unveils-lower-cost-lease-plan-1414427518?mod=WSJ_hps_sections_business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbaron Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Ford CEO: "We could produce a great car, but we just don't feel like it". Yeah, okay. If you say so. Ford CEO: We have expertise to do Tesla-like vehicle Translation: "We could copy the Tesla but were not able to come out with one" BeerBaron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Ford CEO: "We could produce a great car, but we just don't feel like it". Yeah, okay. If you say so. Ford CEO: We have expertise to do Tesla-like vehicle Translation: "We could copy the Tesla but were not able to come out with one" BeerBaron I find it more likely that Tesla could produce a Ford-like vehicle if they wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/factory-upgrade http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/house-always-wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yadayada Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Ford CEO: "We could produce a great car, but we just don't feel like it". Yeah, okay. If you say so. Ford CEO: We have expertise to do Tesla-like vehicle Translation: "We could copy the Tesla but were not able to come out with one" BeerBaron I find it more likely that Tesla could produce a Ford-like vehicle if they wanted to. Allthough it is probably most likely they will stick with producing Tesla like-vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Interesting piece on JB Straubel, Tesla's chief technology officer: http://www.economist.com/news/technology-quarterly/21635332-jb-straubel-charged-more-electrifying-californian-carmaker-he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkbabang Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Watch a young Elon Musk take delivery of his $1 million McLaren F1 hypercar "Although Musk has now moved on to driving the latest offerings from Tesla, his silver F1 remains the performance benchmark for his company. Last year, Musk proudly touted the Tesla Model S P85D's ability to match the McLaren's 3.2-second 0-to-60-mph acceleration time. Today, the McLaren F1 has grown significantly in value. In May, the 28th F1 ever built sold for an incredible $10.5 million." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 They sure know where to recruit the best talent: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-05/want-elon-musk-to-hire-you-at-tesla-work-for-apple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yadayada Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 oh my god, that conference call.. Musk compared tesla with apple, and apparantly sales people in China had said, 'well it is not a very good car, but want to try it?'. Holy shit haha. Also Musk was really rambling on that call. Hope he gets it together. He should just focus on his work, and not bother with these conference calls. Not holding a call would have been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgis Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Musk compared tesla with apple, and apparantly sales people in China had said, 'well it is not a very good car, but want to try it?'. I agree that apple is not a very good car. I believe Cinderella used a pumpkin with better success. ;D ;D ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Pretty long interview with Musk. A bit old, but I'm just getting around to it and I don't remember seeing it here. Sorry if it's a repost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoCitiesCapital Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/03/tesla-stock-soar-to-1900/ Tesla price range from -50% to +1000% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlcglobal Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 MS vid... http://goo.gl/dIAsxc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merkhet Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Seriously? That's what passes for research these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareastwarriors Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Tesla to Upgrade Cars Through the Internet Auto maker seeks to add features, like autonomous driving, directly to Model S owners http://www.wsj.com/articles/tesla-to-add-car-safety-features-via-downloads-1426785366?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/model-s-has-you-covered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinAlberta Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I'm curious - so who here owns TESLA and who is betting against it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkbabang Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I broke down and bought a few shares, a very small position (<2%). If I had done that with Amazon or Apple back in the day I'd have been glad I did it today. Who knows after it goes up 10X or 100X it could be a large part of my portfolio someday. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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