racemize Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 This investment definitely has some issues, so prepare to hold your nose (This came from Kevin, btw). EZ Corp makes money via various consumer loans (pay day, title, multistage, etc.), the pawn business, and gold scrapping. During the recession and gold boom, EZ Corp had significant tail winds and the gold scrapping business did really well, and became as high as 33% of earnings. However, 1) gold prices have dropped in the last year; 2) competition for gold scrapping has increased dramatically; and 3) people have run out of gold reserves to go sell to the increasing number of scrappers. Accordingly, this portion of the earnings has decreased dramatically. A side effect of gold dropping is that loan balances for the pawn business has decreased, since gold is often used as collateral. Thus, the falling gold prices have had a big impact on the business. Several things happened in 2013. First, EZ Corp decided to discontinue several gold only shops in Mexico and transform some smaller shops to full pawn stores in Q3, because of the issues above. This resulted in a charge of ~$0.40/share charge. Then, in Q4, they wrote down their 30% investment in A&B pawn in the UK, which overleveraged itself on the gold scrapping business and has now put itself up for sale. That write down was ~40 million down to 10 million on the books, which is ~0.80 cents a share. Adding just these two back to full year earnings of ~$1.8/share. It is now selling at 11 per share, giving you a pretty low earnings multiple. It seems to me they kitchen sinked Q4, but if you normalize that Q and extrapolate it, you get somewhere in the $1.53 range. Street consensus is for 2014 to show 1.44/share and for 2015 to show 1.92. Valueline expects earnings of $2.25/share in 2014. Earnings in 2011 excluding gold scrapping was $1.41 and in 2012, $1.88. Other issues: they had some bad underwriting on a few new loan products, including their new online venture. Bad debt for some loans increased fairly dramatically, but Q4 conference call indicated that they had done this on purpose and that essentially the new bad debt level was targeted and still profitable, allowing them to increase their loan book (I think referring to title loans). Additionally, gross margins dropped significantly, and needs to come back in line to historic levels, which they indicated they will focus on. So all that is the good news—here’s the bad news. The governance is awful. Really awful. First, there’s an A/B structure, and the publicly traded shares are non-voting. The single holder of the voting shares is Phillip Cohen, who has been described as a crook. He’s had this same structure before with Friedman’s who eventually went bankrupt due to major fraud by the CEO/CFO. Cohen settled for 200k. Cohen pays his company 6,000,000 a year for “advice” and they cover additional incidentals. He’s also got the chairman in his pocket. However, this has been true for 15-20 years, so the market has ignored it in the past and it hasn’t blown the company up. There’s also potential regulatory issues, particularly with payday loans, but in areas where payday loans have been banned, the pawn business does a lot better, since the same people need the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racemize Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 Here's Kevin's original write-up from the highest conviction thread: EZPW. Here is the write up I put on my blog. http://canadianvalueinvesting.blogspot.ca/ Ezcorp had an unusually bad year in fiscal 2013 for a couple of reasons. The biggest reason for this was the huge drop in the price of gold. Gold started 2013 at around $1700 per ounce and ended around $1200 per ounce. That 30% decline contributed to some really tough business conditions. In the pawn business, gold and jewelry are the two most common forms of collateral. Moreover, unless you’ve been living under a rock in recent years, the gold scrapping business has been big business. Conditions in Mexico were extremely tough for the company in the gold pawn business. On the latest conference call they discussed how competitive it has gotten down there. The industry got so competitive that everyone was posting the price of gold they were willing to pay for scrapping. That squeezed margins. This also led to the closure of 57 gold only stores in Mexico. Now to add more insult to injury, the company recorded a $43 million ($29 million after tax) impairment charge on its investment in Albemarle & Bond. The UK pawn lender had a very tough year and was delayed in releasing their financials. This wrote off the majority of their investment in the company. Albemarle is now for sale. Lastly, the company’s operating expenses have gotten way out of line. In 2011 operating expenses were 33% of revenue and in 2012 they were 34%. In 2013, operating expenses rose to 41% of revenue. This is obviously not very good performance but leaves lots of room for improvement. So what does all this mean? Basically EZPW was still profitable in 2013, albeit marginally. Earnings have risen every year since 2002. The company sells for 70% of book value. Book value has grow at 17.5% over the past 10 years. Debt is only 19% of total capital so they are not heavily financed. Interest is well covered. There are a few weird quirks with this small cap but I won't bother you with them here (read the 10-k and listen to the conference call for details). If you exclude the one-time expenses that occurred in 2013 the company would have earned around $1.70 per share. That works out to a current P/E ratio of 6.5. Now if you, like me, assume that the gold scrapping hay-days are over (no recovery of this business) but they can reduce operating expenses by 3%, then EPS will rise to $2.35 per share (P/E = 4.7). If operating expenses can get back down to historical levels of 34% of revenue, EPS will rise to $2.95 per share (P/E = 3.7). It doesn't take an advanced degree in math to see that EZPW is worth at least double the current quote (at a minimum) and up to four times the current quote (at a maximum). Let's call fair value roughly $30/share. It currently sells for around $11.50, down from the $30 level a couple years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APG12 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Cohen pays his company 6,000,000 a year for “advice” and they cover additional incidentals. Correction: $7,200,000. It seems to rise 20% every year. :-\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racemize Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 Cohen pays his company 6,000,000 a year for “advice” and they cover additional incidentals. Correction: $7,200,000. It seems to rise 20% every year. :-\ Ah yes, right you are. Looks like just a renewal for 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yadayada Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Is the discount really big enough here. For shady management and risks of interest rates on those pawn loans being given a haircut? ABM and HAT for example are forced to charge a much lower interest rate. That said, what about HAT? https://www.google.com/finance?q=LON%3AHAT&ei=AJPWUqr7GISIwAOTIg At least regulation is not much of a risk here. And you dont have that shitty shareholder structure. And you basicly pay the same price :) . It is actually cheaper if you think they can go back to 2012 levels, with a 4.75 PE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racemize Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 Is the discount really big enough here. For shady management and risks of interest rates on those pawn loans being given a haircut? ABM and HAT for example are forced to charge a much lower interest rate. That said, what about HAT? https://www.google.com/finance?q=LON%3AHAT&ei=AJPWUqr7GISIwAOTIg At least regulation is not much of a risk here. And you dont have that shitty shareholder structure. And you basicly pay the same price :) . It is actually cheaper if you think they can go back to 2012 levels, with a 4.75 PE. I haven't looked at HAT; I wonder if they have the same future growth? How much exposure do they have to the gold scrapping business? What I like about EZPW is that you can essentially right off the entirety of gold scrapping and still have a decently low P/E. It is not very hard to imagine this company is worth 20+, and it has been valued at over 35 in the past. Underlying core earnings have been growing at ~15% for quite a while now, so even if the valuation doesn't come soon, the growth should keep pushing the price up. There'd have to be some major underlying issues for that not to happen, I think. Or gold would have to continue to drop in value this year. Additionally, with EZPW, they have a huge amount of consolidation left in the pawn business and quite a bit of growth in Mexico. I think regulatory concerns are mostly focused on payday lending, and not necessarily pawn business rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yadayada Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Is the discount really big enough here. For shady management and risks of interest rates on those pawn loans being given a haircut? ABM and HAT for example are forced to charge a much lower interest rate. That said, what about HAT? https://www.google.com/finance?q=LON%3AHAT&ei=AJPWUqr7GISIwAOTIg At least regulation is not much of a risk here. And you dont have that shitty shareholder structure. And you basicly pay the same price :) . It is actually cheaper if you think they can go back to 2012 levels, with a 4.75 PE. I haven't looked at HAT; I wonder if they have the same future growth? How much exposure do they have to the gold scrapping business? What I like about EZPW is that you can essentially right off the entirety of gold scrapping and still have a decently low P/E. It is not very hard to imagine this company is worth 20+, and it has been valued at over 35 in the past. Underlying core earnings have been growing at ~15% for quite a while now, so even if the valuation doesn't come soon, the growth should keep pushing the price up. There'd have to be some major underlying issues for that not to happen, I think. Or gold would have to continue to drop in value this year. Additionally, with EZPW, they have a huge amount of consolidation left in the pawn business and quite a bit of growth in Mexico. I think regulatory concerns are mostly focused on payday lending, and not necessarily pawn business rates. it is in their annual report somewhere. But I don't think they had alot of exposure to gold scrapping. gold scrapping and debt is what did ABM in. I think they are at roughly the same 2012 valuations. EZcorp is cheaper at like 4.2x 2012 earnings, but they had to write down more gold scrapping. HAT is like 4.7. They both grew like weed, mostly because of the consolidation of pawn shops. But with HAT you dont have much down side risk with regulation (because of the already lower interest rates they charge) and the shady share structure. I would rather own HAT to be honest. To give some quick hat numbers revenue past 5 years (million) 129 125 126 84 53 and net income was ~ 13 18 17 13 7 So if they get net income back to 2011 levels, it really is dirt cheap. And lot's of growth. And if we have another recession, they should do nicely. What really does me in tho is their management. At least they are more aligned with shareholders. Not exactly super thrilled about them, but better then Ezcorp. And still more then enough consolidation left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racemize Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 interesting. Why is it so cheap? I can understand why EZPW is, but given your description, it HATs cheapness doesn't appear to make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yadayada Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Well same reasons I think, market thinks gold falling hurts them long term, and probably thinks that this is a recession business. If you take 2013 profit, it is trading roughly 10x earnings? They say they will start to use more electronics now as collateral. Hmm also revenue is down to 50m from 63m in first half of 2013. . Don't own any stock, so havent really done taht much reading on them to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr6196 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 interesting. Why is it so cheap? I can understand why EZPW is, but given your description, it HATs cheapness doesn't appear to make sense. Another reason for HAT cheapness is that the gold purchasing business was/is very very soft. For basically no invested capital HAT and ABM turned in millions of profits (it was the most profitable business I have ever seen). Wisely, HAT's management/board realised this wouldn't last but this business is still going to go to zero (unless the gold price recovers). As it constituted a large part of historical profit then the company looks cheap. These earnings have pretty much no relevance for HAT in the future. As the post above says they are trading at around ~10x '13 earnings (if you extrapolate out the half year results). I have looked at HAT a few times as they have been on value screens for the past few years even before the decline in gold price (+1 for Mr.Market it seems). I was interested enough to do research every time but ended up passing. Each time they just went on to disappoint, every store they added resulted in less and less revenue. Of course, management look pretty good now, compared to the likes of ABM. Despite this, I still can't get comfortable with this situation. The starting point is working out the sustainable level of profit. If we first take out purchasing and scrapping, the company is operating at a slight loss. Scrapping isn't going to zero and the company is working on costs, figuring this in I am guessing ~£2m is probably somewhere around the long-term, sustainable number. One possible source of further upside is an improvement in jewellery, the company reported a big improvement this month which suggests the company can push performance here. However, one source of downside is increased competition. This sector is just so cutthroat...online pawnbrokers, online payday loan providers, and established competition in non-jewellery pawnbroking on the high street (Cash Converters is one major one listed in Australia, I think). The pledge book is down quite a lot and I suspect this will be more than the improvement in jewellery. Taking all this into account, as well as the financial position of the company, I don't think this company is cheap at all. I think the upside from jewellery is outweighed by the threat of competition elsewhere (for example, the company has no reputation with electronics) and I think the company probably still has far too many stores. Sorry to have diverted the thread but this is an interesting situation. (I also forgot to add that the regulatory threat isn't exactly zero either as the payday loan operators have really come under a great deal of scrutiny. The Opposition here have been making a lot of anti-business noise so something would mostly likely happen if they came to power next election, which will be early next year at the latest, which isn't unlikely). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yadayada Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Only 3.8 million of gross profit is gold scrapping, or about 14%. But I guess this all stands on the fact that profits are temporarily down due to collateral becoming worth less in that period? Once gold stabilizes, this should pick up? Anyway, I dont think I know enough about all this to get really comfortable :) . edit: 12 million of gross in 2012 was gold scrapping. with about 13 million in net profit total, how much would net profit be if gold scrapping business is killed off mostly? Cannot imagine that being more then a 2-3 million hit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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no_free_lunch Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I read Kevin's article too, that and some digging on seeking alpha got me into the stock. What I find fascinating about this idea is how high the street estimates are. If they hit estimates of $1.5 2014 & $1.9 2015, then how can they trade at $10.40? It would need to go at least $17 if the earnings are stabilizing at $1.9. We aren't even thinking about growth at those levels either. Now the street can definitely be wrong with it's estimates but since the market basically IS the street, then what is going on? There is this disconnect between the street estimates and the market value which I am betting get's reconciled in the street's favor. It also has the attribute that the price is not heavily influenced by the US PE valuations. This is just due to how cheap it is on an earnings basis. The market can trade down significantly and so long as EZPW hit's their numbers the stock should move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_free_lunch Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 There is some great information in the comments section of this seeking alpha post: http://seekingalpha.com/article/1344141-ezcorp-inc-like-all-value-investing-hidden-in-plain-sight From the comments: Yep, you are on to something! I'm currently living in Mexico and I can tell you that here we already have legislation that prohibits what politicians consider predatory lending practices. What's politically correct is not always logical or feasible, but what companies like EZCorp are doing to solve this issue without confronting politicians and public perception is to charge a small part of its services as interest and a bigger part as pledged services, valuation services and warehousing of collateral services, among other smaller services with a differentiated charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racemize Posted January 28, 2014 Author Share Posted January 28, 2014 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ezcorp-reports-revenues-of-269-million-and-earnings-per-share-of-042-2014-01-28?reflink=MW_news_stmp Not bad for the quarter. $0.42, but with a one time add on of $0.03 for a sell of a set of pawn stores. However, there's also a bit of noise from A&B (expect a full write down next quarter) as well as some other losses that are expected to dissipate on the back half of the year. Cautiously optimistic for $1.6+ for the year; we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_free_lunch Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I will need to see the 10q but i like what was in the release. Like they said in the release next quarter is a tough comp but after that its smooth sailing, i hope. All they need to do is continue to do what they have been doing for the past decade and it should be a double. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racemize Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 I will need to see the 10q but i like what was in the release. Like they said in the release next quarter is a tough comp but after that its smooth sailing, i hope. All they need to do is continue to do what they have been doing for the past decade and it should be a double. It certainly seems that way. Not sure why the market has put the price so low--I've been scratching my head for a few weeks now. Given the results, I would expect >$11 price today, but the pre-market hasn't gotten much over that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yadayada Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Maybe the market is scared of the negative cash flows? If you add up investing activities except for cap exp, acquisitions and write downs, then they are losing alot more suddenly in 2013. 88 million in 2013 compared to about 41 million the year before. This is probably due to growth, but the sudden bigger difference is due to lower prices of gold impacting their pawn business? Which is another risk. It was about -26 million in 2008 for example, so it is not variance. The other reason is probably the same reason HP got so cheap. The market is afraid they will be reckless with expansions just to chase nice earnings. This deflates their earnings in the long term, because part of their nice earnings from the past will not be realized into cash because of overexpansion. And they have to be written down. Third reason is regulation I think. Looking at all this, it is still cheap, but not as cheap as it looks I think. Allthough the first reason is probably not legit, unless gold keeps dropping further in the next 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainforesthiker Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I believe the main reason for their decline in reported earnings in 2013 was due to some (mostly) one time charges related to writing down their stake in A&B (the UK pawn lender), closing 20 or so payday lending stores in Dallas due to regulatory issues, and repurposing some of their Mexico jewelry scrapping stores to pawn shops. They will likely have another A&B writedown in the next quarter of approx. $7.9 million and then that should be completed. Then it seems the earning power of the enterprise will show through, possibly from $1.60 to $1.80 per share. There is certainly some regulatory and management risk here, but it seems that the real reason the stock has been underpriced is that people were viewing their 2013 reported earnings as the new normal in a downtrodden pawn/lending business, rather than merely one time charges that will not recur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racemize Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 Maybe the market is scared of the negative cash flows? If you add up investing activities except for cap exp, acquisitions and write downs, then they are losing alot more suddenly in 2013. 88 million in 2013 compared to about 41 million the year before. This is probably due to growth, but the sudden bigger difference is due to lower prices of gold impacting their pawn business? Which is another risk. It was about -26 million in 2008 for example, so it is not variance. The other reason is probably the same reason HP got so cheap. The market is afraid they will be reckless with expansions just to chase nice earnings. This deflates their earnings in the long term, because part of their nice earnings from the past will not be realized into cash because of overexpansion. And they have to be written down. Third reason is regulation I think. Looking at all this, it is still cheap, but not as cheap as it looks I think. Allthough the first reason is probably not legit, unless gold keeps dropping further in the next 2 years. I hadn't paid attention to the investment activities you pointed out. They've been discussing their increased loaning in new generation of pay day lending as well as the expansion to online lending, so perhaps that represents some of the changes. Regarding lower gold prices, they did discuss a shift to higher merchandise, which is harder to deal with than gold, due to depreciation (apparently most new collateral, particularly in Mexico, is cell phones). That being said, they've been dealing with merchandise for a while, so I would assume they could deal with an incremental shift. They've done a lot of expansions in late 2012-2013. In the call, it seems as though they are going to re-trench and get everything managed with what they just finished, especially given the gold headwinds. They need to get their expenses down and get the online lending working (indicated this should happen in 2nd half, we'll see). Moreover, in second-half 2013, they did discontinue a lot of operations and weren't expanding, so seems like some hope in them not doing crazy expansions. Further, I talked with an industry expert, and he said he buys pawn shops for roughly 2-3x earnings. He said that from his experience, EZPW buys them at 6-7x earnings. Seems like a good way to expand generally, as long as they use cash or debt and not stock. Also, there's a huge runway, as the big pawn chains only own 10% of NA pawn shops. They can keep doing this for years. Regulation is definitely an issue, which is why they are diversifying location and types of loans. One thing to note, from the expert I talked to, is that in states where pay day lending was outlawed (e.g., North Carolina), the pawn business immediately shot up, almost offsetting the loss in revenue from the pay day loans. That ameliorates some portion of the concerns. I guess putting it all together, you could justify a $11 dollar price with just a little over $1 of earnings if you wanted to. It seems as though earnings should be coming back and returning to growth over the next few years, once they get through the gold headwinds. If you were willing to put a higher multiple than 9 or 10, you can easily see a price >$20 in a year or so. I've kept the position relatively small due to regulatory concerns, management concerns, and governance issues, however. I'll be very interested to see how it all plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yadayada Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 And thoughts on ABM? They tried to sell the company, but didnt get good offers. It's pretty much an option right now at 6 million. People with more knowledge on this know what is likely to happen next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racemize Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 And thoughts on ABM? They tried to sell the company, but didnt get good offers. It's pretty much an option right now at 6 million. People with more knowledge on this know what is likely to happen next? I thought they had some announcement that said equity might have no value. I figure it is just going to be written off, or maybe it is a situation for Oaktree. Edit: Here's a link: http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/jan/27/pawnbroker-albermarle-bond-buyer-share-plunge The pawnbroker Albemarle & Bond has scrapped an attempt to sell itself and declared that its shares could now hold little value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin4u2 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 CEO just bought some shares. http://www.conferencecalltranscripts.org/summary/?id=847362 Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 50centdollars Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 CEO just bought some shares. http://www.conferencecalltranscripts.org/summary/?id=847362 Cheers! CFO bought shares too. http://tickerreport.com/banking-finance/124437/ezcorp-cfo-mark-edward-kuchenrither-buys-1000-shares-ezpw/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxputs Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Levi & Korsinsky, LLP is investigating EZCORP, Inc. (NasdaqGS: EZPW) in connection with possible claims of breaches of fiduciary duty by the board of directors of the Company. http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/shareholder-alert-the-law-firm-of-levi--korsinsky-llp-launches-an-investigation-into-ezcorp-inc-regarding-possible-breaches-of-fiduciary-duty-244758671.html Anybody have any insights? Is this serious or minor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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