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Good to hear you're feeling better. Were there any differences between how you felt with this versus previous experiences with the cold or flu? Well, I don't have the vomiting, diarrhea, and fever that makes flu so terribly unpleasant. Like a cold, I have a mild headache. But I don't have the congestion associated with it. I'm not coughing or sneezing. The only thing about covid-19 (so far) which really stands out was the tightness in my chest and heavier breathing, and getting tired very easily from exertion. But that's mostly gone now.

I have covid-19 and tested 'negative', and so much for "common symptoms". Thursday, November 19th: Last Thursday morning, my wife and I noticed that we both had very mild sore throats and slight headaches, with no other symptoms except my wife had swollen lymph nodes in her arm pits (one of which was very tender) and she has never experienced that before. We may have ignored the symptoms had it not been for the fact that we were both experiencing the throat irritation and headaches at the same time. We drove to the Roseville (California) Med7 and joined the line to be tested and waited for 5 hours before having both nostrils swabbed (ouch! ouch!). While waiting in line I had a brief tingling in my lips and when that went away my fingertips began tingling, but that ended soon as well. We both fall asleep earlier than usual. Saturday, November 21st: On Saturday I was called and told that I had a "negative" test result. Our symptoms were basically the same as Thursday but we fall asleep earlier than usual. Sunday, November 22nd: The next day, Sunday, my wife was called and told that she was "positive". The reason for the extra delay for her phone call is that it takes special training to break the news and those people were busy on Saturday (are you fucking kidding me???) Up until this point, we had mild headaches that came and went and very slightly sore throats. No fevers, no coughing, and no loss of taste or smell. Although my wife is complaining of abdominal pain. We both fall asleep earlier than usual. Monday, November 23nd: Very early in the morning it became more difficult to breath for both of us, remedied by turning over on our stomachs in bed. We went for a walk in the afternoon and that was a mistake -- a slight uphill and we had to take a break halfway up it. Otherwise, still no fever or cough, no loss of taste/smell. I was tested again at 4pm because I want a documented 'positive' result in the event that I should need a hospital. We fall asleep earlier than usual. Tuesday (November 24th)) Our lungs were both a bit worse, it was getting harder to breath but nothing too scary (like having books stacked on you chest). My energy was returning last night but my wife was feeling more tired and she was reporting the worst headache she's ever had. She received antibiotics for her abdominal pain (to treat a suspected UTI). Wednesday (today): this morning my breathing is significantly better, almost normal. No other symptoms aside from a slightly scratchy throat. How did we get this? My wife's 17 yr old son has been staying with us as well for the past 10 days and he has symptoms too, complaining mostly of exhaustion (but no fever and no loss of taste/smell). He told us he had a sore throat and cough before last Thursday, but we've never heard him cough and my wife says he's a hypochondriac. I forgot to mention we've had some strange olfactory disturbances. Last Thursday, I smelled ammonia in the household and my wife from time to time says the place smells like cigarettes.

Bad analogy. A vaccine is not inevitable. Sending bits between computers is. You misunderstand me. We already know that a vaccine has been developed. My point is that the development was inevitable without Trump's help, but credit him for speeding it along. Look at the context, I'm not generalizing that all vaccines are inevitable. Similarly, Marc Andreeson was on that NCSA Mosaic development team and then went on to Netscape where he brought it to the masses. And Al Gore's efforts brought the funding to MOSAIC's development. Then, in December 1991, the Gore Bill created and introduced by then Senator and future Vice President Al Gore was passed, which provided the funding for the Mosaic project. Development began in December 1992. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosaic_(web_browser) Ok I get what you're saying, but the web isn't the internet, it is just one of many protocols that run on top of it. The internet itself can trace its roots back to the late 1960s snd TCP/IP was certainly being used by the mid 70s. Also if Trump claimed that he "created" a vaccine I would think that he was delusional as well. To many, or to most, "the Internet" was invented in the 1990s when a user interface was dumbed down enough for them to make use of it. That's when it took off and AOL Online, etc... That's what Gore was referencing. That was a mind-blowing transformation that didn't begin in the 1960s or 1970s. It began when a graphical user interface was built, and it was funded by "the Gore Bill". To your other comment: Trump Falsely Takes Credit For Pfizer Vaccine Success https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2020/11/10/trump-falsely-takes-credit-for-pfizer-vaccine-success-accuses-fda-and-democrats-of-stalling-news-until-after-election/?sh=7f8b0d1c5c8e

Bad analogy. A vaccine is not inevitable. Sending bits between computers is. You misunderstand me. We already know that a vaccine has been developed. My point is that the development was inevitable without Trump's help, but credit him for speeding it along. Look at the context, I'm not generalizing that all vaccines are inevitable. Similarly, Marc Andreeson was on that NCSA Mosaic development team and then went on to Netscape where he brought it to the masses. And Al Gore's efforts brought the funding to MOSAIC's development. Then, in December 1991, the Gore Bill created and introduced by then Senator and future Vice President Al Gore was passed, which provided the funding for the Mosaic project. Development began in December 1992. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosaic_(web_browser)

Similar to your argument that the Internet was inevitable ever since the first integrated circuit was invented... Take all credit away for anything that has been done for Operation Warp Speed -- a vaccine was inevitable.

I doubt the president has anything to do with this at all. Reminds me of this: https://tylervigen.com/old-version.html Obama took office in 2008 gave him a great starting point for increases and the fact that GW took office in 2000 was pretty bad luck. Reagan and Clinton got lucky with their timing as well, Reagan right after a decade of stagnation and Clinton right at the start of the internet boom. None of these things have anything to do with the men elected president though (algore's claims of inventing the internet aside, of course). Fact checking. www.businessinsider.com/al-gore-invent-internet-misunderstanding-2015-11 www.wired.com/2000/10/the-mother-of-gores-invention/ LOL, ok so he didn't "invent" it, he "created" it. Mankind owes him a tremendous debt of gratitude regardless, for that and for saving New York from being underwater by 2014. How many times can one man save the world? Snopes: The claim that Gore was actually trying to take credit for the “invention” of the Internet was plainly just derisive political posturing that arose out of a close presidential campaign. If, for example, Dwight Eisenhower had said in the mid-1960s that he, while president, “took the initiative in creating the Interstate Highway System,” he would not have been the subject of dozens and dozens of editorials lampooning him for claiming he “invented” the concept of highways or implying that he personally went out and dug ditches across the country to help build the roadway. Everyone would have understood that Eisenhower meant he was a driving force behind the legislation that created the highway system, and this was the very same concept Al Gore was expressing about himself with interview remarks about the Internet. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/internet-of-lies/ Sorry but the internet was inevitable ever since the integrated circuit was invented, or at least since the first microcomputer was fabbed at Intel. Once you have computers the next logical step is to connect them together. For a politician to say that he "took the initiative to create the internet" is just evidence of a narcissistic personality disorder with delusions of grandeur. 1991: Pushed funding for first web browser No lie was spread farther and wider than this one: "Al Gore said he invented the Internet." If you were alive in 2000, you heard this claim; it appeared in over 1,000 stories in the American media during the campaign. But what you probably don't know is that Al Gore never said he invented the Internet. What he actually said was, "During my service in the Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet"--plainly a statement about his work as a congressman on the Internet, and not a claim that he had "invented" anything. And it was true, to boot. During the 1980s, when the Internet was little more than a network linking a few universities, Gore repeatedly advocated greater funding for computer networking research. Among the bills he later introduced were the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991, which led to the development of the first Web browser, and the Information Infrastructure and Technology Act of 1993, which opened the Internet to commercial traffic. https://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Al_Gore_Technology.htm

I doubt the president has anything to do with this at all. Reminds me of this: https://tylervigen.com/old-version.html Obama took office in 2008 gave him a great starting point for increases and the fact that GW took office in 2000 was pretty bad luck. Reagan and Clinton got lucky with their timing as well, Reagan right after a decade of stagnation and Clinton right at the start of the internet boom. None of these things have anything to do with the men elected president though (algore's claims of inventing the internet aside, of course). Fact checking. www.businessinsider.com/al-gore-invent-internet-misunderstanding-2015-11 www.wired.com/2000/10/the-mother-of-gores-invention/ LOL, ok so he didn't "invent" it, he "created" it. Mankind owes him a tremendous debt of gratitude regardless, for that and for saving New York from being underwater by 2014. How many times can one man save the world? Snopes: The claim that Gore was actually trying to take credit for the “invention” of the Internet was plainly just derisive political posturing that arose out of a close presidential campaign. If, for example, Dwight Eisenhower had said in the mid-1960s that he, while president, “took the initiative in creating the Interstate Highway System,” he would not have been the subject of dozens and dozens of editorials lampooning him for claiming he “invented” the concept of highways or implying that he personally went out and dug ditches across the country to help build the roadway. Everyone would have understood that Eisenhower meant he was a driving force behind the legislation that created the highway system, and this was the very same concept Al Gore was expressing about himself with interview remarks about the Internet. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/internet-of-lies/

Measuring the size of past parties since Reagan: https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019/business/stock-market-by-president/index.html

Yes, I remarried January 3rd, 2020. Less than 3 months after my divorce was final.

I think a better analogy is giving soldiers R&R without a condom. Frontline workers have proper PPE that protects them, and training. They are catching it from each other when their guard is down (in the breakroom, for example). This information is from my wife who is an HR manager at a large healthcare company (several hospitals and clinics with tens of thousands of employees). They are doing stupid things like having potlucks in the breakroom.

Vaccines will go to med staff first, but regardless remember two doses per person. I know that's the plan to prioritize the med staff, but I'm not in agreement that it's the right approach. If one were to take the 70+ age group out of the equation, what would be the load on the hospitals today? That's how the pressure comes off the hospitals, and the rational for the curfews and shutdowns is that the spread of the virus is risking our hospitals being overrun. Anyways...

We will have potentially 20m vaccine doses available by the end of December. Assuming there is a means of distributing and administering the doses... We have 28m Americans over the age of 70. Most of the dying are age 70+. If we first vaccinating the age 70+ the death tool should drop by over 90%. Right?

+10% Reminds me of Yahoo! 1999

And not banning religious assembly either. The US Constitution continues to drive this in both cases.

Doesn't seem so shrewd to me. The vast majority of shares were repurchased at about $50, the share price today is less than half that. What's worse is that the share repurchase program is actually suspended at the moment, so no shares will be repurchased at these low prices. Don't get me wrong though, Wells does looks cheap, but even before covid, it looked a bit like it was on the ropes (Q3+Q4 of last year were not good quarters). Q1 of this year was bad, Q2 will also be bad. The momentum of the business here does not look good, so I've swerved it and decided to buy Bank of America. It has a similar valuation, but doesn't have the Wily E. Coyote, falling off a precipice feel that Wells does with its recent earnings and revenue. With that said, Charles Scharf could be the guy to turn this thing around. Would not bet against him, but BAC seems the slightly safer bet right now. WFC looks somewhat undervalued on P/B or P/E basis compared to BAC/JPM/UBS. But seems to me extremely undervalued if you look at Mktcap/Total Asset. I don't think the comparison are valid. BAC and JPM both have much larger investment banks attached to them. Maybe WFC is more comparable in business model to USB, which is down more than 40% for the year.

If you are talking about the fake accounts scandal, Munger/Buffett made a comment that Wells didn't profit from it, and that it was individual branch employees just trying to tick off the boxes for number of accounts opened for their individual bonuses, but without an earnings boost to the bottom line for the bank. I don't know if this was an example of bias because they owned it, or if they are correct.

Not to mention even if schools manage to get solid systems and software in place for online learning there is still the issue of teachers themselves. Online teaching is a whole different ballgame. Throw in teachers over the age of 50 who have been in the classroom for 30 years and their effectiveness dwindles. Here in PA a ton of my coworkers pulled their kids from school and rushed them to PA cyber school simply because the teachers are at least trained for online learning. You're missing the point. The school system besides other important things is a giant day care program to look after kids while parents go to work so they don't become delinquents. It doesn't work online. It needs to be physical. The timeline is also political to reopen schools and get those jobs counted again before the election. Many of the 'unemployed' are actually employed, but staying home with kids. The opposite is true too. Many are unemployed, but may still be receiving benefits and compensation and therefore cannot file for unemployment yet, and may not be counted in unemployment figures. At my wife's employer, they are still receiving health insurance and accruing negative PTO (which is cash paid to them by the employer). And they are ALSO collecting unemployment. Isn't that receiving benefits and compensation? Seems counter to what you are saying, can you explain what you mean?

Not to mention even if schools manage to get solid systems and software in place for online learning there is still the issue of teachers themselves. Online teaching is a whole different ballgame. Throw in teachers over the age of 50 who have been in the classroom for 30 years and their effectiveness dwindles. Here in PA a ton of my coworkers pulled their kids from school and rushed them to PA cyber school simply because the teachers are at least trained for online learning. You're missing the point. The school system besides other important things is a giant day care program to look after kids while parents go to work so they don't become delinquents. It doesn't work online. It needs to be physical. The timeline is also political to reopen schools and get those jobs counted again before the election. Many of the 'unemployed' are actually employed, but staying home with kids.

He had nobody like that in his study. His prescribed diet is the only one that has shown a reversal of cardiovascular disease. Others have slowed down the progression, but none other has reversed it. I looked more into it and this guy has decent criticism. https://theskepticalcardiologist.com/2017/05/14/more-incredibly-bad-science-from-dr-esselstyns-plant-based-vegan-diet-study/ Has his diet been studied by others or on a larger sample size? Bill Clinton is still alive today, following the Dean Ornish diet. It's fairly close to the one Esselstein promotes -- Ornish allows him a serving of salmon once a week and small servings of nuts, for example. No other meat and only fat-free dairy. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-almost-everything-dean-ornish-says-about-nutrition-is-wrong/

He had nobody like that in his study. His prescribed diet is the only one that has shown a reversal of cardiovascular disease. Others have slowed down the progression, but none other has reversed it.

They're not mutually exclusive. You have whole foods vegans (me), and then there are processed and junk food vegans too.

On supplements... Not many people eat a diet without fortified foods (milk, orange juice, corn flakes, grape nuts, bread, etc..). All fortified because your diets with too few vegetables are wholly inadequate. Nutritional yeast is fortified with B12 and that's how I get it. Nobody on a whole foods diet eats the fake meat or the processed sugar. Iff they did, they wouldn't be on the diet. There are plenty of unhealthy vegans -- an Oreo cookie is vegan. Coca-Cola is vegan. If you do a study on them, pretty sure you'll find heart disease there. Most of the time I try to avoid anything processed. Wine of course is processed though. BG2008's diet just isn't sustainable. We can all be whole foods plant-based, but we cannot all be meat based. Not enough land/water without additional deforestation.

Dr Caldwell Esselstein’s study is one where he took 24 of the worst of the worst cardiac patients and just put them on his prescribed diet. None of them had another issue again, which is unheard of, and this began in the 80s. ( I believe one who went back in sugar and lamb chops had another heart attack or stroke ). Of those who stayed on the diet, the angiograms show their blockages opening back up, restoring flow. What he is doing with these patients is very different from what qualifies as vegan or vegetarian in other studies. He didn’t cherry pick the Buffett with good genes — he started with a study of 24 of the worst of the worst, triple bypass candidates. These were his own patients, he didn’t manipulate the study through clever sampling.

Pre-civilized humanity was pretty interesting in terms of life expectancy. It was essentially a tri-modal distribution: lots of deaths around birth/infancy, around 25-30 (usually dying of tooth infections), and the remainder actually living into their late years (50s, 60s, 70s). Sources? 8) I'm not gonna dig it up for you, but I know that Sweeden has kept good mortality tables going back a long time. I was really surprised when I first found out. Big surprise, life expectancy isn't really increasing by much and it isn't increasing more than before. Look at how long the first 6 or so US Presidents lived. And Ben Franklin.

If Donald Trump Jr's girlfriend has it, then I don't see how he doesn't also have it too (unless he was with another girlfriend lately): https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/03/politics/kimberly-guilfoyle-positive-coronavirus-test/index.html Guilfoyle has "been with a lot of the campaign donors" in recent days, one source familiar with the matter said. Billed as a "Mountain West Ranch Retreat," one event occurred in Gallatin Gateway, Montana, from Tuesday until Thursday, according to one of the people. Another event was billed as the "Rapid City Roundup Retreat" in Rapid City, South Dakota, from Thursday to Friday. The people said Guilfoyle was not seen wearing a mask during the events.