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The angry haters are back smearing and swearing. Ha ha. The irony of it all. There's no self awareness.

4x isn't close**. It is a dangerous, BS narrative. CDC "best estimate" of Covid IFR-S = 0.4 CDC estimate of flu IFR-S last year (my calculations)* = 0.095 * 2018/2019 Estimated deaths / est. symptomatic illness = 34,000 / 35,000,000 = 0.095 Source: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html ** And the CDC estimate is low compared to other experts. For example, Dr. Fauci estimates 10x. Source: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/top-federal-health-official-says-coronavirus-outbreak-is-going-to-get-worse-in-the-us.html Is the CDC calculation of these numbers going to be affected by their admissions of reporting overcounted testing data? Scientists Warn CDC Testing Data Could Create Misleading Picture Of Pandemic https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/21/860480756/scientists-warn-cdc-testing-data-could-create-misleading-picture-of-pandemic

In fact, George Washington was a slavemaster. This isn't coronavirus though. Can abortion be discussed elsewhere?

Regardless of comparing rates, the population of people susceptible is also vastly higher (because of no vaccinations or natural immunity).

At the time, the surge was expected as imminent within a few weeks. The calendars were cleared of elective surgeries, because they could all be postponed for a while (define "really need", it's a tricky definition. They really need the surgery, but could wait a few weeks perhaps). In comparison, the guy who needs an immediate heart bypass surgery was able to get one.

Would it not have been more informative to tweet "Emergency Rooms still open!" than "Liberate Michigan!"? I sympathize with the difficulty in public messaging during a time of panic and confusion. But I don't think public figures have devoted enough attention to nor sounded the alarm enough about the huge public health collateral damage. The media hasn't helped either. That treatments for all these afflictions that are many times as deadly as COVID have been forgone can only be charitably viewed as a failure by public health officials. Moreover, we won't see the effects immediately - they'll only surface over time at which point they'll surely be another data point and forgotten. My wife is in HR at a large healthcare company that owns and operates hospitals and clinics. She was telling me that some organ transplants didn't happen because they were classified as "elective surgery". She works from home so I hear a lot on the conference calls about the red ink spilling. Yeah, just sad. What demarcates the line between elective and non-elective? It also seems like an arbitrary line that hospitals are unsure of as well. Any scheduled surgery is elective. Cancer surgery is elective because it is scheduled. They were all banned in order to make room for the surge that never came close to occurring. Meanwhile, the elective surgeries are the bread-and-butter cash cow for the company. Cancelling surgeries was supposed to free up staff, but instead they had to lay off staff. Mistakes were made in what was locked down, but it would look different if the surge really did come. This pretty much. I think this discussion is a bit colored by locality too. Some clinics closed everything preparing for the surge. Some already reopened. Some never closed. Even in California friend's wife works in Stanford cancer center (not sure exact name), and AFAIK they never closed. My wife's laser hair removal was never cancelled. You could get it removed in California, but you could not have it styled.

The other part of this compound issue is that schools and daycares were closed. A lot of hospital and clinic staff have kids and couldn't come in to perform those surgeries regardless.

Would it not have been more informative to tweet "Emergency Rooms still open!" than "Liberate Michigan!"? I sympathize with the difficulty in public messaging during a time of panic and confusion. But I don't think public figures have devoted enough attention to nor sounded the alarm enough about the huge public health collateral damage. The media hasn't helped either. That treatments for all these afflictions that are many times as deadly as COVID have been forgone can only be charitably viewed as a failure by public health officials. Moreover, we won't see the effects immediately - they'll only surface over time at which point they'll surely be another data point and forgotten. My wife is in HR at a large healthcare company that owns and operates hospitals and clinics. She was telling me that some organ transplants didn't happen because they were classified as "elective surgery". She works from home so I hear a lot on the conference calls about the red ink spilling. Yeah, just sad. What demarcates the line between elective and non-elective? It also seems like an arbitrary line that hospitals are unsure of as well. Any scheduled surgery is elective. Cancer surgery is elective because it is scheduled. They were all banned in order to make room for the surge that never came close to occurring. Meanwhile, the elective surgeries are the bread-and-butter cash cow for the company. Cancelling surgeries was supposed to free up staff, but instead they had to lay off staff. Mistakes were made in what was locked down, but it would look different if the surge really did come.

Would it not have been more informative to tweet "Emergency Rooms still open!" than "Liberate Michigan!"? I sympathize with the difficulty in public messaging during a time of panic and confusion. But I don't think public figures have devoted enough attention to nor sounded the alarm enough about the huge public health collateral damage. The media hasn't helped either. That treatments for all these afflictions that are many times as deadly as COVID have been forgone can only be charitably viewed as a failure by public health officials. Moreover, we won't see the effects immediately - they'll only surface over time at which point they'll surely be another data point and forgotten. My wife is in HR at a large healthcare company that owns and operates hospitals and clinics. She was telling me that some organ transplants didn't happen because they were classified as "elective surgery". She works from home so I hear a lot on the conference calls about the red ink spilling.

Would it not have been more informative to tweet "Emergency Rooms still open!" than "Liberate Michigan!"?

The prior article on the suicides suggested that lifting the lockdown will reduce the suicide rate. Those new articles you offer are suggesting that COVID-19 is scaring them from coming in to the hospital or clinic, which were never locked down for heart attack and stroke patients. They will vaccinate your children. Lifting a lockdown may scare these people even more if it led to an increase in the numbers of people infected with COVID-19.

LOL. How about ban cars? Why abortions? The ultimate political hijacking thwarted (I hope). Covid 19 has killed more than cars. Abortion has killed more than covid19. Keep in mind, my argument isn't just saving lives, it's also about what the government say we can (or cannot do) to our bodies. Why is it okay to use the slogan only when it benefits your political ideology? Are you seriously comparing the cost (human, not financial though that also probably applies) of having an abortion and not wearing a mask??? Further, the mask is probably going to save the health of many people at very little cost and inconvenience to the wearer. I am also curious about what you think of the modesty laws which are more stringent in the US than Europe? Why are those laws okay when it concerns your body and why haven't there been many protests encouraged by the president on that incredible violation of freedom compared to the simple requirement to wear a mask? haha.. When I visited Ventura two weeks ago, they had the clothing section of Walmart taped off because the local ordnance doesn't let you shop for any clothing in a brick-and-mortar store. We had the discussion that if it's illegal to buy clothes we could walk around naked.

LOL. How about ban cars? Why abortions? The ultimate political hijacking thwarted (I hope). Covid 19 has killed more than cars. Abortion has killed more than covid19. Start an abortion thread in politics.

LOL. How about ban cars? Why abortions? The ultimate political hijacking thwarted (I hope).

I read the article to mean that they are putting that out there as a hypothetical possiblity, but there is nothing in the article about a belief. Look at the wording: He also suggested that hydroxychloroquine could serve as an agent that transports the zinc into the cells. It could also increase the effectiveness of zinc, he says. It isn't what they believe, at least not according to the sentence as written. Rather, it could do this... (or it could do that). The article also says: "Rahimian said that their next approach would be to do a prospective study to see if the research holds up in people receiving zinc. " So they are going to do what I suggested -- find out whether zinc by itself is even better.

The article is based on one doctor's testimonial. There's no data at all. One person squashed by a UFO landing on his head would also be 'unprecedented'. What kind of numbers are we talking about here? Prior to COVID-19, there were more auto-accident fatalities than suicides in the US. I imagine that relationship has flipped and will revert when things open up again.

What would the numbers be for taking zinc by itself, or for the cocktail without adding the hydroxychloroquine? The study says patients treated with hydrochloroquine benefit from zinc, but perhaps a more important question is whether patients treated with zinc benefit from the potentially deadly hydrochloroquine?

Let's talk about Fairfax as an investment, but discussion of the CEO and how the CEO is managing the company is not permitted. How often is Elon Musk's mental state or alleged manipulation discussed on the TSLA thread? It isn't called 'politics' when we're trying to understand the man in charge of a corporation.

Nordstrom stands out for service.

If the "churches will be packed by Easter" appeared out of touch, this explains things very well. Imagine if your therapist worked with you for years on learning the tool of how to "think magically" to get you through hard times. Was it all taught? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-magical-thinking-on-coronavirus-is-rooted-in-the-teachings-of-this-famous-pastor/ar-BB14pONf

Watch the scene again where Robert Duvall is standing tall while everyone around him is taking shelter and he's acting like a war isn't going on all around him and nothing is going to scratch him, and he wants to surf the beach. It's all showbusiness.

He reportedly wore a mask inside of the Ford plant but would not allow any photographs to be taken because he didn't want the press to get them. It really is about ego. My wife makes this great voice of a child digging in and refusing to eat his green beans. "No, I won't do it and you can't make me because I... DON'T... WAN'T... TO!!".

We can get our almond milk in a pack of 3 at Costco for the same unit price as buying 1 at Walmart. And Walmart has no membership fee. Whole Foods is nicely tied to Amazon but we can't get a delivery time so what's the point? They need to hand out a 'ticket' and text me for scheduling delivery when my ticket number is called -- dropping the ball here.

I overheard a woman yesterday saying "i'm not drinking the cool-aid" (walked into the medical office without a mask). People have bought into the "this is just a hoax" line and won't take precautions. All fallout from politicizing the virus, and this only costs lives and economic damage.

Listen to you! The pot calling the kettle black! Sorry, I don't berate people.